**Important Update** Innotech Exhaust

[John@R]

Let us start off by saying that Innotech offers a great product, which is why it saddens us to announce that we can no longer continue business with them. Recent lack of communication and rumors of a 40% retail price hike leave us no other choice.

Rimier Motor Sport has been working with Innotech Exhaust since the beginning. We were the first US company to import them and did a lot of R&D for their E90/E92 systems. All was well at the beginning. We had open lines of communication and frequently spent late night hours on the phone with them discussing how they can improve the product and the brand.

As some of you may know, Innotech is not the manufacturer. The systems are made for them by JIM Tech in Taiwan. JIM Tech also makes exhaust systems for Fabspeed, Agency Power, Cargraphic and a few other brands using very similar designs. We knew this going in, but figured it would be much easier dealing with Innotech since the price was right, the communication was good and they had already developed a brand name.

Unfortunately, for reasons unbeknownst to us, Innotech has stopped responding to our emails and phone calls. Maybe it has do with us telling them that a 40% price increase will not go over well with US customers, and that we will not be able to sell their products at such a high price. Not sure, but it's unfortunate that they have sacrificed a business relationship with the company that put them on the map.

[Hershey]

Well said

[1sikbmr]

guess it's back to the akra for everyone now lol

[MR///M3]

So the Innotech F1 will now be around $8,700?? This is interesting news. PYSpeed is supposed to be their master distributor now and they have a shipment of exhausts waiting to clear customs at the port right now (my exhaust being one of them).

Maybe innotech is trying to shaft you guys at Rimier MotorSport and have only one distributor.

[Malek@MRF]

Sorry to hear about that John.

But not too sorry for them, they knocked off some of our designs. However we weren't too upset because we later found out that those designs that Ipe copied from us were causing problems for the car anyway.

[Richbot]

Good riddance.

[Mike@R]

Originally Posted by MR///M3

So the Innotech F1 will now be around $8,700?? This is interesting news. PYSpeed is supposed to be their master distributor now and have a shipment of exhausts coming in on Nov. 15th from them (my exhaust being one of them). Maybe innotech is trying to shaft you guys at Rimier MotorSport.

PYSpeed has listed themselves as the master dist. for Innotech ever since they placed their first order with them. This was months after Innotech agreed on an exclusive deal with us and we were shipping systems all over the world... so it wouldn't be the first time we got shafted by them.
It's a shame given all the help we provided Innotech in getting their brand up and moving.
I've spoken to Eric at PY more than once regarding Innotech and the market share. However, during our last conversation he was very coy. So there may be something going on we're unaware of.

In any case, this is not how we do business. We are very open and honest with our customers and strive to provide the best service possible. Innotech is simply no longer a fit within these practices.

We have been in contact with Innotech, but any time other than when we're sending them money, the communication is so poor that we cannot continue to support their brand... and with a greedy 40% price increase, we can no longer justify their products as good value for money when compared to the likes of Kreissieg and others.

[THE TECH]

A hike in an already overpriced exhaust...it's good that they are gone.

[Mr.MichaelM3]

Hahahah what a bunch of a holes!!! Like 6 grand wasnt enough money to begin with for there exhausts?!?!. Now they want even MORE?!?!?! THanks but not thanks Id rather take my car in for a supercharger for the SAME PRICE than for a friggin EXHAUST!?!?!?!?!

[MR///M3]

Originally Posted by Malekreza11

Sorry to hear about that John.

But not too sorry for them, they knocked off some of our designs. However we weren't too upset because we later found out that those designs that Ipe copied from us were causing problems for the car anyway.

What design did they copy from? You are a small company that I doubt they even know about being in Taiwan. It's easy to say someone copied you on a design of an exhaust. There are only a certain amount of ways you can design an exhaust for this car. AFAIK, no one else has the same x-pipe as them (Talking about F1 system).

[avex8]

why pay so much for piece of can

[THE TECH]

I didn't know it was a cheap Taiwanese setup. Glad I know now. No way would I spend that kind of money on something like that. They price it like it's titanium.

[Mike@R]

Originally Posted by THE TECH

I didn't know it was a cheap Taiwanese setup. Glad I know now. No way would I spend that kind of money on something like that. They price it like it's titanium.

It is made in Taiwan, but don't discount it as cheap or sub par in quality. It's actually quite nice or we never would have offered it or run it on our own cars. For a valvetronic system it was very good value for money at the old price, but if it ends up being 40% more then it is overpriced.

You'd be surprised at how many well respected exhaust system brands are made in Taiwan. JIM Tech makes OE systems as well.

[THE TECH]

Originally Posted by Mike@RimierMotorSport

It is made in Taiwan, but don't discount it as cheap or sub par in quality. It's actually quite nice or we never would have offered it or run it on our own cars. For a valvetronic system it was very good value for money at the old price, but if it ends up being 40% more then it is overpriced.

You'd be surprised at how many well respected exhaust system brands are made in Taiwan. JIM Tech makes OE systems as well.

Understood.

[JDM3]

6k was crazy, 40% on top of that is a rip off! Just buy a blower and mod your stock exhaust.

[M3DCTBT]

You can buy that exhaust minus insignia on all the asian trading sites and even ebay.

[avex8]

Originally Posted by M3DCTBT

You can buy that exhaust minus insignia on all the asian trading sites and even ebay.

True, i am at china right now. I saw that full system for sell for 12,000 RMB equivalent to US$2,000. I am planning to buy one here and ship it to the US ha

[Malek@MRF]

Originally Posted by MR///M3

What design did they copy from? You are a small company that I doubt they even know about being in Taiwan. It's easy to say someone copied you on a design of an exhaust. There are only a certain amount of ways you can design an exhaust for this car. AFAIK, no one else has the same x-pipe as them (Talking about F1 system).

We have been around far longer than Innotech has by many years FYI.

There are plenty of ways to design a system for this car. Their F1 system sports a typical industry termed x-pipe. The system does not have a true x-pipe.

What they copied is not something that needs to be discussed on the forums, so if you would like to know, you could PM me.

[Poofyo101]

Sorry to hear that. Shady things going on in the car world it seems now.

[mrkhanna16]

Megan racing and innotech made in same factory???

[Brucewonder]

what comes around goes around, greedy bastids. GL selling a 7K+ exhaust on a soon to be old M3.

[Rekrul]

LOL. I always figured their shit was a gimmick. I thought it was TI? It's not TI and people are paying 5k+? lol