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      04-02-2026, 07:08 PM   #441
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OK this is just too cool. I want one!

And what about this illustrious "Freude am Fahren" unicorn ?
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Maybe someday BMW will finally show the E34 M5 Touring unicorn powered by the S70/2 (6.1-liter V12 McLaren engine).

It exists.
"There's a secret BMW E34 M5 Wagon with a McLaren F1 engine in it
July 9, 2019
Before the mighty 6.1-liter V-12 developed for the McLaren F1 made its way to the supercar, it was proven in a peculiar prototype vehicle: a BMW E34 M5 wagon.
BMW built and tested a one-off M5 wagon prototype with the 6.1-liter V-12, and BMW still has the car, too. The Collecting Cars podcast, which "Top Gear" presenter Chris Harris hosts, spoke with David Clark last month, who was director of McLaren road and race cars from 1994-1998. He revealed the story of the BMW M5 wagon as the test vehicle for the massive V-12 and said he's also driven the car.
"It's an outrageous thing," Clark said of the V-12-powered M5 wagon. We can only imagine, but a 627 horsepower M5 wagon with 479 pound-feet of torque sounds marvelous. Although those aren't gobsmaking numbers by today's standards, recall that the M5 made 311 hp at the time and 266 lb-ft of torque.
Clark added the M5 wagon prototype still resides at BMW as part of a secret collection of prototypes. However, the public has never seen the car. Perhaps with Clark's comments out in the open, BMW will be more open about showing the incredible car off.
Although Clark has nothing but love for the 6.1-liter V-12 and the F1 itself, the program, he said, was not a cash cow. In fact, he was ordered to find a way out of the engine deal with BMW after the F1's launch. BMW was supposed to supply 350 engines, but McLaren only built 106 cars.
Today, there's nothing quite like the F1, but that will soon change. Gordon Murray, the instrumental design figure behind the F1, plans to introduce a successor the beloved supercar. The supercar will house a V-12 and even a manual transmission. Murray said the car is the last chance for companies to build something in the spirit of the original F1 as emissions and regulations start to squeeze more traditional supercars out of production."

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"McLaren shoehorned the F1's V12 into a BMW M5 wagon test mule
July 9, 2019
Automakers are known to utilize preexisting vehicles as test beds for major research and development purposes. But some of the zombie mashups produced in-house can result in pretty interesting combinations. Case in point, when McLaren was developing its BMW-sourced naturally-aspirated 6.1-liter V12 for the legendary F1, the company put the engine in … a BMW M5 wagon? Yup, you read that correctly.
It’s no mystery that the legendary F1 came with a BMW-sourced V12. That “M70” V12 originated from its placement in the E32 7 Series and E31 8 Series “50” models in the 1980s up through the 1990s. The version that went into the F1, however, is more closely related to the M-tuned “S70” V12 found in the E31 850CSI, which was the pseudo M-variant to the 8 Series that wasn’t officially designated an M model. But it did feature full-fledged tuning from the M Division.
On “Top Gear” presenter Chris Harris’ podcast, “Collecting Cars”, Harris interviewed David Clark, the former director of McLaren’s cars for both the road and motorsports between 1994 and 1998. Clark revealed that they took an E34 BMW M5 wagon and shoehorned the S70 V12 into its engine bay as the mule for testing the F1’s engine. Clark even said he drove the car himself as they were fine-tuning the V12’s engine output.
You’re probably wondering, how the heck did that thing fit? But it isn’t that surprising. The E34 5-Series was designed to house either the BMW’s venerable straight-six or the new-at-the-time V8. And there was room enough to house the V12 as well, particularly since BMW’s V12 was essentially two of its “M20” straight-sixes bolted together at the crank in a vee.
When Clark was testing the S70 V12 in the wagon, he and his team ended up with the 627 horsepower and 479 pound-feet of torque the F1 became known for. That’s nearly twice the power the production M5's 311 hp and 266 lb-ft at the time.
Clark also divulged that the actual prototype mule still exists, but it’s in BMW’s secret collection of prototypes, and it’s never been revealed to the public. He does, however, hope that one day, BMW will open its doors and show off the incredible mashup of an automobile.
Until then, you’ll have to rely on the few custom engine swaps done by owners to get a taste of what a V12-powered E34 M5 is like.
Rumor also has it that McLaren could be working on a new direct F1 successor with help once again from Gordon Murray. According to what we last heard, there's a chance that the new model could come with a V12 and a manual transmission, similar to the original."

(https://www.autoblog.com/news/mclare...w-e34-m5-wagon)
Chris Harris - Collecting Cars - Episode 2 (David Clark - former Director of the McLaren F1 road and race car programmes): the car is mentioned @ 07:10

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So changes like these 3 races in will decide the championship. I would say Ferrari would instantly become favorite to win championship.
you forgot that Ferrari hates winning ...

just kidding!
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If things go too slowly with the PU re-think then I'll send someone to speed things up
LMFAO (!) => https://www.reddit.com/r/formuladank...piracy_theory/
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you forgot that Ferrari hates winning ...

just kidding!
It's not hate, it's an allergy
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That should keep the stewards guessing
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Found Charlie's car at a local hobby store and got the last one

They had a bunch of $hit a$$ papaya Norris cars left
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I'm smelling a marketing scam here? Someone is either going to get a big promotion or go to jail.

KitKat launches stolen chocolate tracker after thieves plunder 12 tons: Check your candy
Chocolate brand says 413,793 bars vanished while in transit.
"We've always encouraged people to have a break with KitKat, but it seems thieves have taken the message too literally and made a break with more than 12 tons of our chocolate," a KitKat spokesperson said at the time.

The spokesperson added that while the company does "appreciate the criminals' exceptional taste," the cargo theft highlights a growing issue affecting businesses of all sizes.

"With more sophisticated schemes being deployed on a regular basis, we have chosen to go public with our own experience in the hope that it raises awareness of an increasingly common criminal trend," the statement added.

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On Wednesday — which also happened to be April Fools' Day — the company launched a tool for customers to check if their KitKat bars are linked to the theft.

Everybody's getting into the act. Anybody hear from ///M Power-Belgium lately?

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Some are lactose intolerant. Is the SF-26 winning intolerant – risk of anaferraric shock ?

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"We have a good power unit, the engine is good, everything. It's just the chassis side is terrible. Just slow in the corners."

i know one team that is the opposite maybe they can joint venture ....
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The greatest looking F1 donuts ever (!)

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Can't win with a POS
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Can you imagine that the whole of Fia has brought in these '26 shyster PU's just to stop MAX from catching up with Hammy/Shumi..
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The greatest looking F1 donuts ever (!)

One handed too, the papaya need both hands to control their finicky Marshall trick bits
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Remember 2003, at Interlagos, Giancarlo Fisichella won an #F1 GP in the Jordan-Ford car called "pretty awful”.

Honorable mention goes to Ayrton Senna at the 1984 Monaco Grand Prix in a Toleman-Hart who should have won if not for the the whinny POS Alain Prost and his pet FIA official Jean-Marie Balestre

Who me hold a grudge?
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Remember 2003, at Interlagos, Giancarlo Fisichella won an #F1 GP in the Jordan-Ford car called "pretty awful”.

Honorable mention goes to Ayrton Senna at the 1984 Monaco Grand Prix in a Toleman-Hart who should have won if not for the the whinny POS Alain Prost and his pet FIA official Jean-Marie Balestre

Who me hold a grudge?
It may have looked like one sidedness at the time but these decisions are taken for the safety of all the drivers (Mansell's Lotus) and at that particular moment the rain was pouring down relentlessly.
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MAX drove his Aston Martin Valkyrie

WOW that's incredible! Anyone know what MAX ate for breakfast today? Or lunch? Did he do exercise? Did he do poo poo? Good consistency? Healthy poo?
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It may have looked like one sidedness at the time but these decisions are taken for the safety of all the drivers (Mansell's Lotus) and at that particular moment the rain was pouring down relentlessly.
Lets throw a little more gas on the fire:
Race director Jacky Ickx, a renowned wet-weather expert in his days in Formula One, found himself in the midst of a political storm as he was accused of deliberately stopping the race to ensure Prost won. Ickx drove for Porche in sports car racing, the conspiracy went, and so of course he wanted Prost, who was powered by a Porche-built engine, to win
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Lets throw a little more gas on the fire:
Race director Jacky Ickx, a renowned wet-weather expert in his days in Formula One, found himself in the midst of a political storm as he was accused of deliberately stopping the race to ensure Prost won. Ickx drove for Porche in sports car racing, the conspiracy went, and so of course he wanted Prost, who was powered by a Porche-built engine, to win
Indeed I read that Ickx was fined and suspended from his job as the Clerk of the Course by Fisa because he didn't consult the stewards first but from his side felt that he should act quickly.
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