RPI (Race Precision Inc.) finally have the scoops for the Mcoupe:)

laidback · 02-20-2008, 03:18 PM

The scoops and the bmc filter made a huge difference imho...

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Originally Posted by Starscream

just for the heck of it I took mine out last night and I felt/heard no difference at all,

Ill leave it out until the next oil change when i'm under the hood again to see if possibly the ECU learns anything
But I couldn't feel a difference

Starscream · 02-20-2008, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by laidback

The scoops and the bmc filter made a huge difference imho...

Seeing as I can't be bothered to flip through pages how much was the final price of the scoop and filter?
and when they ready to ship?

laidback · 02-20-2008, 10:51 PM

HERE IS THE PRICE FOR THE SCOOPS...

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Originally Posted by RPIpower

Hi guys,

Sorry for the late replies. I know a lot of you must have a lot of questions. The price for the scoop is $125 or $210 for the kit (scoop + filter). Laidback has asked for groupbuy pricing and I am doing my best to see what I can do in this matter. Most of you know that we hand make them here to ensure fitment, performance and quality. As part of RPi's commitment to our customers, value is very important. Setting the right/fair price for a product has always been a priority so none of our retail prices will be far fetched like some of the products from other manufacturers. Because of that, it is not common for us to give out "introductory prices" or "group buys". Discounts for those types of sales are minimal at best. We feel that the work we put behind our products, in your case, ram air @ 8whp+ for $125, is an awesome value without any type of sales of gb.

I have two sets of ram air intakes to show those who come to our Open House today. Please dont ask to buy them as they are already sold

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With that, I will continue to work with you guys......and laidback.......on giving you guys a great product at a great value.

Rosspbig · 02-20-2008, 11:09 PM

^^^^ sounds good i cant wait to order the scoop!

Zeddy4Me · 02-21-2008, 01:02 AM

Here is a picture of my scoop... sorry the car is kind of dirty after the rain...

MMMazing07 · 02-21-2008, 08:46 AM

can the scoop and filter be DIY?

Zeddy4Me · 02-21-2008, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MMMazing07

can the scoop and filter be DIY?

Yes, simple as taking off your grill, taking off the restrictive dam to the OEM ram air... installing the RPI scoop and reinstalling the grill...

RPIpower · 02-21-2008, 07:41 PM

I want to thank Earl for taking the time to come down and see for himself.........

Earl and I talked a while ago and he was asking me about the scoop. Anyways, he came today and we did a bunch of dyno pulls, etc.

You can see the hp and tq difference between having the ram air and not. These tests were done WITH THE STOCK AIR FILTER. Earl is STILL using the stock filter so NO FILTER was changed. NO BMC, No K&N, bone stock. You can also see that removing the charcoal filter does little to nothing w/o the ram air set up as with ram air, there was only a 1-1.5whp gain.

The best thing about all this was that we ran the car over and over again on the dyno with heat soak. Even Earl asked me if I wanted to open the hood and let the car cool down a little. I said, "no, I love to underate our gains." Its not uncommon for companies to let the car sit for 30 minutes or an hour so the car would cool down before dyno testing their product. Maybe Earl can chime in but I dont think we let the car rest even 5 minutes between pulls.

Zeddy4Me · 02-21-2008, 11:07 PM

Good stuff, thats what I'm talking about... I'm a believer!! Trust me I HAVE THE SCOOPS!!

BurnouTT-M · 02-22-2008, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RPIpower

Please contact Roy at CA Automotive. They are our European distributor.

http://www.ca-automotive.co.uk/home.php

Your distributor wants about 275,38$ for the scoop incl. Filter, this is not acceptable - for just some bucks more I will buy the gruppe M intake.

BimmerZealot · 02-22-2008, 03:08 AM

I'm glad you're kidding cause that's a killer price, especially across the pond

BurnouTT-M · 02-22-2008, 03:46 AM

The BMC filters are produced in italy and they cost about 55,-€ (81,60$) in a normal german store. So you think 193,78$ for the scoop is a killer price?

Z4coupe · 02-22-2008, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RPIpower

I want to thank Earl for taking the time to come down and see for himself.........

Earl and I talked a while ago and he was asking me about the scoop. Anyways, he came today and we did a bunch of dyno pulls, etc.

You can see the hp and tq difference between having the ram air and not. These tests were done WITH THE STOCK AIR FILTER. Earl is STILL using the stock filter so NO FILTER was changed. NO BMC, No K&N, bone stock. You can also see that removing the charcoal filter does little to nothing w/o the ram air set up as with ram air, there was only a 1-1.5whp gain.

The best thing about all this was that we ran the car over and over again on the dyno with heat soak. Even Earl asked me if I wanted to open the hood and let the car cool down a little. I said, "no, I love to underate our gains." Its not uncommon for companies to let the car sit for 30 minutes or an hour so the car would cool down before dyno testing their product. Maybe Earl can chime in but I dont think we let the car rest even 5 minutes between pulls.

Is this a dyno for a SI coupe? I ask because of the rear wheel numbers. If it is where do I sign up?

Just by looking at the graphthere is a huge jump in Hp at the 110mph level and widens by a lot up until 125. What were the exact numbers gain over stock? I hope this is a dyno for an SI. Keep us posted.

Z4coupe · 02-22-2008, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeddy4Me

Eloy is still doing the R&D on the Non-M's... We are basically trying to see if there is any noticeable gains. If there isn't, then the scoops would probably not be made for the non-M's... we'll see... I'm gonna be talking to Eloy tommorrow... will update tommorrow...

Any news from Elroy? Thanks

Dammmittt · 02-22-2008, 09:00 AM

How did you only get 251 max at the wheels...is something wrong with his M?

pbdm4k · 02-22-2008, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dammmittt

How did you only get 251 max at the wheels...is something wrong with his M?

Good point, its rated 330hp, shouldn't it be putting 290 down to the wheels?

RPIpower · 02-22-2008, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BurnouTT-M

Your distributor wants about 275,38$ for the scoop incl. Filter, this is not acceptable - for just some bucks more I will buy the gruppe M intake.

You are free to order from us directly if you want. The prices are marked up in Europe and Australia due to freight. If you were to buy it from us and have it shipped it would be similar in price. If you feel the Gruppe M intake performs better and at a better price, that is your purchasing decision.

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Originally Posted by BimmerZealot

I'm glad you're kidding cause that's a killer price, especially across the pond

$125 for 12whp on a Dyno Dynamics, maybe 15-16whp on a Dynojet? What a rip off! lol.

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Originally Posted by Z4coupe

Any news from Elroy? Thanks

If I'm going to make a scoop for you guys, might as well get my name right. haha. E L O Y

If someone with a non M wants to come and let me dyno their cars, CALL me. Do NOT PM me. 562-630-5966

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Originally Posted by Dammmittt

How did you only get 251 max at the wheels...is something wrong with his M?

NOthing wrong with his car at all. Please read below.

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Originally Posted by pbdm4k

Good point, its rated 330hp, shouldn't it be putting 290 down to the wheels?

Some of you may be new to the differences between dynos. If you are familiar with the different dynos available, Dyno Dynamics is known to have super conservative numbers. Our numbers read much lower than other dynos like dynojet, mustang, land/sea, etc. For a detailed description of the differences, visit: http://raceprecision.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=105

The important thing here is that we track the gains on the same car, on the same day. The number is really just a number. We have had MANY customers who have dynoed at 260whp that have given the whoopass to those who have dynoed 300whp+ on other dynos.

BBP2345 · 02-22-2008, 12:02 PM

have any non-M's in his area offered their car to Eloy so he can get started on our scoops?

Dammmittt · 02-22-2008, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RPIpower

Some of you may be new to the differences between dynos. If you are familiar with the different dynos available, Dyno Dynamics is known to have super conservative numbers. Our numbers read much lower than other dynos like dynojet, mustang, land/sea, etc. For a detailed description of the differences, visit: http://raceprecision.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=105

The important thing here is that we track the gains on the same car, on the same day. The number is really just a number. We have had MANY customers who have dynoed at 260whp that have given the whoopass to those who have dynoed 300whp+ on other dynos.

Thanks, I think the response on bimmerfest helps alot

BimmerZealot · 02-22-2008, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BBP2345

have any non-M's in his area offered their car to Eloy so he can get started on our scoops?

Ya, I'm about an hour and a half from RPI, just gotta find time to make the trip up. Hopefully this weekend if its not pouring. Looks clear for tomorrow, I'll give Eloy a call, woke up with a nasty sore throat.

Zeddy4Me · 02-23-2008, 01:56 AM

From Eloy: If someone with a non M wants to come and let me dyno their cars, CALL me. Do NOT PM me. 562-630-5966

I was at RPI today and spent a good deal of the day there. ANyone with a NON-M Z4 want to help with the R&D on the scoops, contact Eloy directly at the number above. He will custom fab a prototype scoop and test it out... Call him on Monday since he won't be in on Saturday... thats the latest guys..

Z4coupe · 02-23-2008, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by RPIpower

If I'm going to make a scoop for you guys, might as well get my name right. haha. E L O Y

Lol sorry.

By the way on the non Ms is the airbox on the Ms simaler to ours?Is the design of the scoop going to be the same? Any headway on this, or are you just waiting to get someone to get an SI in for a dyno test of the kit? Thanks for helping us out, Im in on a kit if and when its available. take care

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RPIpower Captain 55 Rep 860 Posts Drives: F97 X3M, G80 M3 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: PA iTrader: (0)	For the skeptics............. I want to thank Earl for taking the time to come down and see for himself......... Earl and I talked a while ago and he was asking me about the scoop. Anyways, he came today and we did a bunch of dyno pulls, etc. You can see the hp and tq difference between having the ram air and not. These tests were done WITH THE STOCK AIR FILTER. Earl is STILL using the stock filter so NO FILTER was changed. NO BMC, No K&N, bone stock. You can also see that removing the charcoal filter does little to nothing w/o the ram air set up as with ram air, there was only a 1-1.5whp gain. The best thing about all this was that we ran the car over and over again on the dyno with heat soak. Even Earl asked me if I wanted to open the hood and let the car cool down a little. I said, "no, I love to underate our gains." Its not uncommon for companies to let the car sit for 30 minutes or an hour so the car would cool down before dyno testing their product. Maybe Earl can chime in but I dont think we let the car rest even 5 minutes between pulls.
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BurnouTT-M Enlisted Member 7 Rep 44 Posts Drives: BMW Z4 M/// Coupe Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Autobahn iTrader: (0)	The BMC filters are produced in italy and they cost about 55,-€ (81,60$) in a normal german store. So you think 193,78$ for the scoop is a killer price?
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Zeddy4Me Lieutenant 25 Rep 442 Posts Drives: 09, AW E90 M3 6MT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: OC, CA iTrader: (2)	From Eloy: If someone with a non M wants to come and let me dyno their cars, CALL me. Do NOT PM me. 562-630-5966 I was at RPI today and spent a good deal of the day there. ANyone with a NON-M Z4 want to help with the R&D on the scoops, contact Eloy directly at the number above. He will custom fab a prototype scoop and test it out... Call him on Monday since he won't be in on Saturday... thats the latest guys.. __________________
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