GB: Official DKF Section 1 Kit

GriffBrew · 04-30-2013, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by inTgr8r

I agree.
I dont think there is much doubt that headers would be the best solution.

I'll probably run this way for a while myself to see what it's like.

I thought you were installing Fabspeed headers. You're supposed to be my guinea pig!

inTgr8r · 05-01-2013, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GriffBrew

I thought you were installing Fabspeed headers. You're supposed to be my guinea pig!

lol....
I'm curious too....
I want to see what eliminating section 1 CATs is like

inTgr8r · 05-01-2013, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by gearhead1

I'm in.

300 cell, coated. Definite. gearhead1

I'm going to pair these up with the fruits of another GB (Stromung exhaust) and run 'em for awhile before I pull the trigger on headers. This takes away a few headaches I've had around the O2 relocation, etc.

Updated.

For coating just note it at time of payment
I will be posting instructions when the GB closes.

marinb · 05-01-2013, 12:56 PM

I looked up the NitroPlate coatings and it looks like they have 4 different coatings, but only 3 of them are offered here.

Would it be possible to get the Satin Black coating? I like that one best (and it would match the coating on my headers better).

inTgr8r · 05-01-2013, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by marinb

I looked up the NitroPlate coatings and it looks like they have 4 different coatings, but only 3 of them are offered here.

Would it be possible to get the Satin Black coating? I like that one best (and it would match the coating on my headers better).

It's a new release from them that has just become available.
Yes... you can order that color.

I will amend the choices.

SyruSur · 05-02-2013, 01:17 AM

I'm in.

300 cell, Definite.

mousitch · 05-02-2013, 03:29 PM

Less than 72 hours left on this guys for a super nice piece of engineering. If your on the fence it is time to jump on your horse and get signed up!

This is my 2006 Roadster with AA headers and ReDiablo cans. Stock secondarys and stock x-pipe. I know that sound will be even better with the 300 racing cats and the smoother flowing exhaust. Thinking of going DKF all the way back on the coupe. Best mod I made on the roadster. CEL light was an issue with this setup even with ESS tune. The DKF s-pipe has shown to eliminate this issue w/o software tuning. Wish I would of had access to it when I had the roady. A no brainer for my coupe at this price...

Blind32 · 05-03-2013, 10:57 AM

So this setup gives you the ability to swap the CAT and Resonator at will correct? Is there a bung for the O2 sensors on the resonators?

My thoughts are that if you relocate your O2 sensors to the DKF section 1 CAT, then decide to put the resonators in, need to attach the O2 sensors somewhere. Wouldn't want to have to re route them back up to the front.

mousitch · 05-03-2013, 12:53 PM

Yes. You can replace resonators and cars at will. Most that run aftermarket headers will just run the cats. I'm going to run my oem headers for a bit with resonators and stock o2 setup. No bungs in resonators. Believe it was a space issue. More than likely running bungs in resonators would throw a code on your sensors if no cat anyway.

Blind32 · 05-03-2013, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mousitch

Yes. You can replace resonators and cars at will. Most that run aftermarket headers will just run the cats. I'm going to run my oem headers for a bit with resonators and stock o2 setup. No bungs in resonators. Believe it was a space issue. More than likely running bungs in resonators would throw a code on your sensors if no cat anyway.

I see. My concern is if I swap to resonators, what do I do with the Post O2 sensors? Just disconnect them? or do I need to route them back to the Headers? I understand I'll throw a code for not having cats but what if the Post O2 sensors aren't connected at all to the harness?

marinb · 05-03-2013, 01:23 PM

I'm also bummed out about this. I don't really care for the resonators. I'd rather have straight pipes with bungs on them, so that if the O2s are already relocated you can just plug them in. Like this setup:
http://www.vacmotorsports.com/catalo...-section-1.htm

GriffBrew · 05-03-2013, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by marinb

I'm also bummed out about this. I don't really care for the resonators. I'd rather have straight pipes with bungs on them, so that if the O2s are already relocated you can just plug them in. Like this setup:
http://www.vacmotorsports.com/catalo...-section-1.htm

Seems like this would be an instant CEL, right? In that case, why not remove the sensors altogether. Maybe I'm missing something.

mousitch · 05-03-2013, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GriffBrew

Seems like this would be an instant CEL, right? In that case, why not remove the sensors altogether. Maybe I'm missing something.

Yep. After about 100 miles. CEL

GriffBrew · 05-03-2013, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mousitch

Thinking of going DKF all the way back on the coupe.

Yeah, me too. Wish we had pricing. Really debating the Stromung cans group buy going on now.

inTgr8r · 05-03-2013, 07:42 PM

Yes you will definitely get a CEL when running without CATs.
I never understood the reason for bungs in a straight piece for that reason.

If you intend to swap pieces in & out you should really think about extensions with connectors.
The regular harness just makes it to the the back location. .....there won't be much slack to play with.
The LAST thing you should be doing is taking the sensors out by allowing the wires to twist while undoing.

To me it's far better to have connectors and just leave the sensors in the CATs when you remove them.

inTgr8r · 05-03-2013, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GriffBrew

Yeah, me too. Wish we had pricing. Really debating the Stromung cans group buy going on now.

I hear ya...
If its anything like this GB pricing, it will be worth the wait though.

I really like the idea of a complete, flow designed system from front to rear.

Caddyshk · 05-03-2013, 08:35 PM

Uncovered the car tonight and started it up in the garage - 5 month hibernation - neighbors running around; what the hell did you just start? Fabspeed Headers & DKF section 1 not even installed yet

WTF?

MPowerZ32 · 05-03-2013, 08:37 PM

I for one really like the ability to swap between cats and resonators. With aftermarket headers and exhaust, it's hard to know what type of noise the entire system will make with cats vs resonators. This setup give you the option to experiment. I have catless headers and ESS supercharger. The tune turns off CEL for catless application. I will be just "plugging" the o2 bung on the S pipe. I can't wait to see some flames out of the exhaust with just the resonators on the S pipe.

mousitch · 05-03-2013, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MPowerZ32

I for one really like the ability to swap between cats and resonators. With aftermarket headers and exhaust, it's hard to know what type of noise the entire system will make with cats vs resonators. This setup give you the option to experiment. I have catless headers and ESS supercharger. The tune turns off CEL for catless application. I will be just "plugging" the o2 bung on the S pipe. I can't wait to see some flames out of the exhaust with just the resonators on the S pipe.

Flames= awesome

I want flames......

marinb · 05-04-2013, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GriffBrew

Seems like this would be an instant CEL, right? In that case, why not remove the sensors altogether. Maybe I'm missing something.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mousitch

Yep. After about 100 miles. CEL

I don't know why everyone is getting caught up about a CEL. Any tune can easily turn off the CEL.

The point of having the bungs in the resonators (or in straight pipes), is that it makes it easy to swap between cats and catless. Having to reroute the O2 sensors every time you want to do a swap is the biggest pain in the ass ever. You're essentially going to avoid ever wanting to swap between cats and catless because of that.

GriffBrew · 05-04-2013, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by marinb

I don't know why everyone is getting caught up about a CEL. Any tune can easily turn off the CEL.

The point of having the bungs in the resonators (or in straight pipes), is that it makes it easy to swap between cats and catless. Having to reroute the O2 sensors every time you want to do a swap is the biggest pain in the ass ever. You're essentially going to avoid ever wanting to swap between cats and catless because of that.

People get caught up in the CEL because they either need it off for emissions testing or want it off normally so that when it does come on, they know it's a different issue than headers.

For people who don't care about the light (ignore it or detune it, like yourself), I don't know why they get caught up in relocating sensors at all. Just remove them completely. Your tune fixes it, so you have zero reason to ever need the bungs.

Blind32 · 05-04-2013, 10:43 AM

Sorry, didn't mean to derail thread

Quote:

Originally Posted by marinb

The point of having the bungs in the resonators (or in straight pipes), is that it makes it easy to swap between cats and catless. Having to reroute the O2 sensors every time you want to do a swap is the biggest pain in the ass ever. You're essentially going to avoid ever wanting to swap between cats and catless because of that.

This was my concern. Hit the nail on the head. Would be easiest to screw O2 sensors into resonator/straight pipe. If I had them disconnected, then I'd have a unhooked connector flopping around under my car that could get dirt/water in it. I dont' mind a temporary CEL while I'm out having "loud fun mode" catless

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Blind32 Certified Adrenaline Junkie 43 Rep 1,325 Posts Drives: '07 Z4MC Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Dallas TX iTrader: (2)	So this setup gives you the ability to swap the CAT and Resonator at will correct? Is there a bung for the O2 sensors on the resonators? My thoughts are that if you relocate your O2 sensors to the DKF section 1 CAT, then decide to put the resonators in, need to attach the O2 sensors somewhere. Wouldn't want to have to re route them back up to the front.
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mousitch Dark Sider 129 Rep 1,779 Posts Drives: 2008 Space Gray Z4MC Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Missouri iTrader: (11) Garage List 2008 Z4M Coupe [7.50]	Yes. You can replace resonators and cars at will. Most that run aftermarket headers will just run the cats. I'm going to run my oem headers for a bit with resonators and stock o2 setup. No bungs in resonators. Believe it was a space issue. More than likely running bungs in resonators would throw a code on your sensors if no cat anyway. __________________ [URL=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/153/071jt.jpg/] 2008 Space Grey M Coupe-Euro headers-RPI Scoop-Gruppe M CAI-Eisenmann Race Cans-RE X-pipe-ECU Remap with O2 and EGT delete-H&R Sport springs-Zeck CDV delete-Stock Gloss black powder coated wheels-LED Tekarbon Angel Eyes Project-Michelin Super Sports-Hardwired Uniden R7-H&R front and rear spacers-Alarm module added-stereo amp recoded to vert spec settings
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marinb First Lieutenant 19 Rep 331 Posts Drives: 2017 911 GTS Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: NorCal iTrader: (4)	I'm also bummed out about this. I don't really care for the resonators. I'd rather have straight pipes with bungs on them, so that if the O2s are already relocated you can just plug them in. Like this setup: http://www.vacmotorsports.com/catalo...-section-1.htm
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inTgr8r Lieutenant General 2432 Rep 11,667 Posts Drives: M2 Comp Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Toronto iTrader: (10)	Yes you will definitely get a CEL when running without CATs. I never understood the reason for bungs in a straight piece for that reason. If you intend to swap pieces in & out you should really think about extensions with connectors. The regular harness just makes it to the the back location. .....there won't be much slack to play with. The LAST thing you should be doing is taking the sensors out by allowing the wires to twist while undoing. To me it's far better to have connectors and just leave the sensors in the CATs when you remove them. __________________ '21 M2C Hockenheim Silver '18 718 Cayman S Lava Orange (sold) '13 E92 M3 Santorini Blue (sold) '07 Z4 M Coupe Alpine White (sold)
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Caddyshk M = Midlife Crisis 65 Rep 2,006 Posts Drives: 2006 Z4MC Interlagos Join Date: May 2007 Location: Fort Erie, Ontario, Canada iTrader: (0)	Uncovered the car tonight and started it up in the garage - 5 month hibernation - neighbors running around; what the hell did you just start? Fabspeed Headers & DKF section 1 not even installed yet WTF? __________________ 2006 Z4MC - #LL93158 SS Race Cans, RE X Pipe, DKF Sec 1, Fabspeed Headers, OE STB, AS Shifter, Dave Z CDV, GC Coil Overs, Stoptech lines, Hawk DTC Pads, RE Clutch Stop, RE Transmission Mounts, Vibra-Technics Engine Mounts, Poly FCAB & RTAB, LeatherZ M Shift Boot, Tekarbon Rear Spoiler, CF Grills, Advan RS DGM
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MPowerZ32 Banned 66 Rep 598 Posts Drives: Man Join Date: May 2012 iTrader: (4)	I for one really like the ability to swap between cats and resonators. With aftermarket headers and exhaust, it's hard to know what type of noise the entire system will make with cats vs resonators. This setup give you the option to experiment. I have catless headers and ESS supercharger. The tune turns off CEL for catless application. I will be just "plugging" the o2 bung on the S pipe. I can't wait to see some flames out of the exhaust with just the resonators on the S pipe.
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