GB: Official DKF Section 1 Kit

[Mtxzptlk]

30 Days to manufacture the pipes -> July 12

30 Days for coating -> August 12

is how I'm translating the schedule

I don't see a delay, rather it's the 30 days process time.

[inTgr8r]

Originally Posted by philjw

What is the source of delay? When I asked before making payment earlier in this thread, you said that early July was the target and that DKF was hoping to do much better? I understand that these things can take more time than expected, but it's frustrating to hear that all's going well when it's clear that the schedule has slipped. I was really hoping to get this installed before August as I will be without a second car for a while at the end of this month.

What delay?
It was always 30+30 and mfg & finishing. production started after 12th of June when things finally closed off on the GB.

[philjw]

Originally Posted by philjw

Quick question regarding timing. If I read the original post correctly, GB ends May 5, then 30 days lead time + 30 days manuf/ship = delivery early July? Is that right? Thanks.

Originally Posted by inTgr8r

Yes, but DKF is hoping to do much better than that.
The main issue is getting a production run scheduled with the fabricator.
That can't be scheduled until we have final numbers & everyone has paid.
If they happen to be in the middle of a production run for other products, the ours has to wait until the next window.
....if the production window is available right away, then things will move quicker.

This is what I'm referring to (around page 6 of thread). Maybe I missed something along the way that pushed this schedule out? Either way, I understand the nature of these things, just appreciate honest communication, especially after having sent significant $$$ over PayPal to people I've never met.

[Caddyshk]

Originally Posted by philjw

This is what I'm referring to (around page 6 of thread). Maybe I missed something along the way that pushed this schedule out? Either way, I understand the nature of these things, just appreciate honest communication, especially after having sent significant $$$ over PayPal to people I've never met.

The Group Buy ending pushed it out

[philjw]

Originally Posted by Caddyshk

The Group Buy ending pushed it out

I'm sorry, I'm still confused... GB ended on the scheduled day in May as I recall? Also not sure how the coatings matter as I didn't order that? Sorry to complain, but just found another thread about CF parts where money was sent to someone here on the board and then months and months went by with no product and money tied up with strangers. I've had some very bad experiences before and get nervous when messages don't line up... Again, just wish the person taking my money had sent out an email or something saying, hey, that part you paid for and we told you would be shipped by early July is actually gonna take until mid-August and here's why. Do others think this is unreasonable? If I promised a client something on a specific date and then told him around that time that everything was on schedule to be done 6 weeks later without explanation I'd be fired on the spot.

[itdnwiwbp]

I no longer expect anything in the way of communication, customer service, or seemingly reasonable updates from almost any business I work with. People just don't seem to care anymore. However, in this case I expected it to take awhile and the part will certainly be worth the wait. No complaints from me.

[AraquielZ4M]

Originally Posted by itdnwiwbp

I no longer expect anything in the way of communication, customer service, or seemingly reasonable updates from almost any business I work with. People just don't seem to care anymore. However, in this case I expected it to take awhile and the part will certainly be worth the wait. No complaints from me.

+1 to everything stated. I have no complaints with this GB; quite frankly the stated schedule (30 + 30) felt incredibly aggressive to me, so I will be very happy if it shows up at my doorstep in August.

(im)Patiently waiting for the GB on the additional sections.

[Beedub]

hey guys, thought id just chime in here, i can see the timeline has slipped alittle But i really want to assure you guys that your money is nothing but safe with dkf, iim a UK member thats had the pleasure of dealing with DKf from the start, ive purchased parts from them, talked to doug many a times and honestly..... if was to spend a large amount of money with ANYONE in terms of an exhaust setup, it would be with doug, the timeline has slipped but i can assure you it will be for an essential reason, to get you guys the very best product, this is DKFs First run of a sort and they want things right.... DKF, Doug, keep the GBer's update a little more, maybe throw some pics up, but i know for a fact when you guys get your product ( not long now, i assure you ;-)) you will be nothing but 110% happy with it..... having dealt with DKF from over the pond and had to put huge trust in someone.... DKF have always been awesome!!

[mousitch]

Originally Posted by philjw

I'm sorry, I'm still confused... GB ended on the scheduled day in May as I recall? Also not sure how the coatings matter as I didn't order that? Sorry to complain, but just found another thread about CF parts where money was sent to someone here on the board and then months and months went by with no product and money tied up with strangers. I've had some very bad experiences before and get nervous when messages don't line up... Again, just wish the person taking my money had sent out an email or something saying, hey, that part you paid for and we told you would be shipped by early July is actually gonna take until mid-August and here's why. Do others think this is unreasonable? If I promised a client something on a specific date and then told him around that time that everything was on schedule to be done 6 weeks later without explanation I'd be fired on the spot.

If you only knew how this all went down. The others on this board do and realize the hurdles DKF had to jump to get this done and hence no complaints from them. Have you read the DKF hanger thread? Anyway we are WAY lucky anyone actually gives a shit about our cars. Be patient and you will be happy. DKF is a great company and you will be happy with your finished product. I couldn't imagine all the work and time that has gone into development. The man has done a lot to make great parts at lower prices for our rides. I want quality. And this product will blow SS quality away(as will his upcoming ventures)

[marinb]

^ Agreed. There is a lot of history here... how long is that original DKF exhaust thread now? Anyway, Doug at DKF is a standup guy; I contacted him a few times about some issues I had with the DKF Hangers, and he always went out of his way to help and make things right with no extra cost to me.

I believe this exhaust piece will be a quality piece, and that inTgr8r and DKF will get us the parts in a reasonable amount of time. As far as GBs go, this is about as good as it gets in terms of communication (although, I agree that more is better). I mean, inTgr8r's got 7k+ posts, who would be more trust worthy to run a GB?

[inTgr8r]

Originally Posted by philjw

I'm sorry, I'm still confused... GB ended on the scheduled day in May as I recall? Also not sure how the coatings matter as I didn't order that? ........

while the GB was supposed to end as you say, it dragged out getting all the payments in.
Production couldn't kick in until that was completed.
Paid up numbers impacted our pricing and the numbers to be produced if anyone backed out.
Yes it pushed out a bit at the start, but the production time is still as stated and on target.

Re finishing.
All systems are either polished or coated.
Either way it is a secondary procedure that takes time.
That time frame also includes shipping from fabricator, shiping back & forth from the finisher to DKF and then packaging to be shipped to each of us.

I can assure you that DKF is one of the most reputable companies I have ever dealt with in all my MANy years playing with cars.

As Beedub mentions above just look how they handled the hanger GB.
I know that that must have cost DKF a lot of money to get new hangars built and shipped, but they stood by our members and followed through.

As someone mentioned above 30+ 30 is aggressive timeline for something like this.
But DKF is working hard on it and I don't see any issue with with meeting delivery on time.

Doug is in constant communication with me on this GB almost daily and the feedback we are getting from the fabricator is all positive.

Just a little patience guys.... This is going to be a great piece for our cars.

[philjw]

Sorry all, still learning. This is my fourth Z, but only the first time really modifying any of my cars, and as someone who's had to go to court after losing thousands of dollars via an online deal, I guess I'm a bit more wary than most. To be clear, I totally get the fact that these things take time and that it can take longer than expected. I did not know the story about the exhaust hangers, just got spooked after reading about the CF door incident, and unfortunately I don't know any of you personally (nor had I heard of DKF), although this is an incredibly friendly and helpful board. Plenty have vouched that my money is in safe hands, and I think my disconnect was the delay in letting everyone take weeks to send funds. I didn't realize the impact of that allowance on the schedule. In any case, the part does sound awesome and I am excited to get it. Also do appreciate the effort to make this happen by all involved.

In case anyone cares, communication really helps in situations like this, especially for someone like me who hasn't been part of the community for years. When I send someone money in advance and the last thing I hear is that they're going to send me what I payed for in a particular time frame, and then the next thing I hear is that everything is "on schedule" for six weeks later, it's frustrating. If the original plan had been to receive the part in August or even September, that would have seemed reasonable. Or if I had gotten an email saying, "thanks for your $$$, we're now on a slightly different schedule due to the delay in others paying, we hope you understand," I doubt I'd have an issue with that either. I just get nervous when someone I know only through an anonymous forum has my money and (at least it seemed at the time) begins to shift their story. Make sense?

[seank]

Originally Posted by philjw

Sorry all, still learning. This is my fourth Z, but only the first time really modifying any of my cars, and as someone who's had to go to court after losing thousands of dollars via an online deal, I guess I'm a bit more wary than most. To be clear, I totally get the fact that these things take time and that it can take longer than expected. I did not know the story about the exhaust hangers, just got spooked after reading about the CF door incident, and unfortunately I don't know any of you personally (nor had I heard of DKF), although this is an incredibly friendly and helpful board. Plenty have vouched that my money is in safe hands, and I think my disconnect was the delay in letting everyone take weeks to send funds. I didn't realize the impact of that allowance on the schedule. In any case, the part does sound awesome and I am excited to get it. Also do appreciate the effort to make this happen by all involved.

In case anyone cares, communication really helps in situations like this, especially for someone like me who hasn't been part of the community for years. When I send someone money in advance and the last thing I hear is that they're going to send me what I payed for in a particular time frame, and then the next thing I hear is that everything is "on schedule" for six weeks later, it's frustrating. If the original plan had been to receive the part in August or even September, that would have seemed reasonable. Or if I had gotten an email saying, "thanks for your $$$, we're now on a slightly different schedule due to the delay in others paying, we hope you understand," I doubt I'd have an issue with that either. I just get nervous when someone I know only through an anonymous forum has my money and (at least it seemed at the time) begins to shift their story. Make sense?

Makes perfect sense.

[MPowerZ32]

DKF is legit. I have the exhaust hanger. It's a great product. Can't wait to receive the section 1.

Now can we have a DKF custom roll cage? I promise I will keep bringing this up until it happens!

[marinb]

Originally Posted by E82tt6

Who might I be able to talk to about pricing for an s-pipe/section 1 now that the GB has passed? I can't seem to find a website or anything for DKF, nor have I seen non-GB pricing anywhere.

Unfortunately my car is going to be going for sale soon. So I'm going need to sell this kit before I even get it. It includes Satin Black coating and is already paid for. If anyone is interested let me know.

[Blind32]

Originally Posted by MPowerZ32

Now can we have a DKF custom roll cage? I promise I will keep bringing this up until it happens!

Now that sounds EPIC! I'd be super interested in that!

[crfine88]

Figured I would chime in and echo what is already being said by others.

I had the opportunity to work with DKF on their exhaust project in the early stages. They continued to work through hurdles and obstacles that most companies would have stopped at.

From personal experience I can vouch for Doug. He is a stand up guy and has proven he will back his product 100% (ie. the hanger group buy). I am happy to see this section 1 available from DKF. I think they hit the price point and we have all seen the quality they can produce. If I was still in a Z4M, I would be all over this.

FYI to the Zpost crew, this forum annihilates anything else I've come across in the automotive forum world. I miss being a part of the family. I am now an official lurker

Cheers

[MPowerZ32]

Originally Posted by crfine88

FYI to the Zpost crew, this forum annihilates anything else I've come across in the automotive forum world.

+1
Totally agree. BMW Z owners are more likely to be hardcore enthusiasts. I used to own a Z3M. The owner community on bimmerforum was one of the best. People made their own custom parts for the Z3M and started group-buys. Sounds familiar? Carbon fiber roof, exhaust hanger, section 1 exhaust etc. I think Z4M forum shaping up to be awesome in very similar ways.

[Diokaef]

Hello Guys, long time since I was able to post here.

As some of you know I took a brake from posting etc do to divorce and other family issues... Damn it I even joined the USMC because I want to be part of something bigger but unfortunately my bones were not that strong anymore and I got medically discharge. But now that I have all your Thousands of dollars I'm moving to the Bahamas to retire there.. Just kidding

I Started DKF with Doug back in 08 and so far we have more trouble then gains but we don't give up because we believe in DKF in the near future taking off in a great way.

I want to personally assure you guys that your money is well taken care of and our deadlines are to the best of our control being met. We only used the part of the money necessary for raw material and we have been keeping the money in our hands to safeguard deliveries on the promised date.

I want to Thank You everyone that still believe in us and we will come thru to all of you, working on X-pipe that connects to OEM mufflers have already began and we are also working hard in other future parts so we don't die here.


Here is my personal email for anyone that may want to ask questions etc. my time is limited to be able to come here more often but Doug as well is here to answer any questions you guys may have, please feel free to contact us


Giovanni Souza AKA Diokaef
souza.inc@gmail.com

Doug Davis
dkfperformance@gmail.com


Thank You All and I can't wait to hear you guys review of the S-Pipe

[philjw]

Originally Posted by Diokaef

I want to personally assure you guys that your money is well taken care of and our deadlines are to the best of our control being met. We only used the part of the money necessary for raw material and we have been keeping the money in our hands to safeguard deliveries on the promised date.

Thanks so much for making this happen for our cars. Thanks to comments from all the forum members here, I was already more than assured that my money is in good hands. I had just misunderstood the timing of everything. The part looks fantastic and I'm glad I got in on the group buy.

Phil

[MPowerZ32]

Any updates?

[inTgr8r]

Nothing new right now. I'll see what we can find out next week.