05-26-2023, 08:30 AM | #1 |
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If you had to choose between a 2022 M50I with 1,000 miles (i was told that the engine was bad so BMW replaced it and now it’s for sale again) or the 2024 M60I, which would you choose?
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05-26-2023, 08:58 AM | #2 |
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2024. I think the tech is better. And you may have to check to make sure you have all the features in a 2022. I know they were deleting some things due to supply chain constraints. Maybe not, but you should google it and see. And I would make sure the 2024 was built after April of this year.
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05-26-2023, 03:34 PM | #3 |
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I considered doing cash transaction for a 2022 with 15-20k miles. I was saving about $15-20k. But then I decided to go with newer tech and design. I also decided to lease or finance and invest cash instead of buying cash down. With that approach I wasn’t really saving a lot.
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05-26-2023, 06:20 PM | #5 |
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I haven’t got my car yet. But couple of hours of test driving 2023 models have me hooked me to the new tech. Also I m coming from 2016 x4 and 2009 3series. So anything is a major upgrade.
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05-26-2023, 07:09 PM | #6 |
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I have a '22 M50i and love it. We bought an X5 and got to choose between '23 and '24 and went with the '23 to have the "old" technology from the driver seat (idrive7 and buttons). Totally personal choice. I am not a fan of the one big curved screen and lack of physical buttons. No shade on those that like it...probably one of those things I would learn to love but it wasn't for me. I think both MY's look good so it really comes down to what you prefer visually. I absolutely love the handling, acceleration, etc. on mine and it has all the options I wanted.
Do you keep cars 5 years or longer? If not, maybe the '22 since it will likely be fine with warranty until you get rid of it. If you do keep cars longer, perhaps the '24 since why give up a couple of years.... I just don't think you can go wrong with the enjoyment of the car. It's going to come down to visual preference and cost. Good luck with the choice! |
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will always have the engine replacement in the vehicle history, so future sale/tradein will be diminished For all intents and purposes, that 2022 is a lemon. It should be priced accordingly ( a significant discount) and an extended warranty thrown in.
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I would go for the 2024 X7 M60i over the 2022 X7 M50i due to the option deletions on the 2022s but mainly due to the quality and refinement levels on a 2022 versus a 2020, which has been discussed many times before on this X7 forum. I don't think I would be satisfied buying a 2022 when I could just get the better 2020 - sure, the 2020 will have less time left on the warranty and it's a bit older, but I think I would be fine with that since I would appreciate experiencing the quality, refinement, and rare/neat options.
Coming to the 2024, the updated iDrive 8 is a plus for the most part and I think there is an improvement in quality/refinement compared to the 2022. I prefer the exterior design of the pre-LCI better, but that's subjective. If you had asked 2022 X7 M50i vs. 2023 X7 M60i, then I literally would not know which to choose due to the higher than usual prevalence of issues with the 2023s, which has also been discussed on this X7 forum numerous times. But for 2022 M50i vs. 2024 M60i, I'd go '24 M60i X7. |
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05-27-2023, 12:30 AM | #11 |
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As the proud and happy owner of a Malachite Green 2022, I have to step in here to contradict at least some of the ‘22 bashing.
I prefer the iDrive 7 and the sun shade over the speedo display. I also prefer buttons, and as I’ve said before, it’s my feeling that BMW is simply falling in line with the rest of the car world and saving money by using screens instead of buttons and selling it as ‘new tech’. Yes, some ‘22s were missing some things due to supply chain issues, so check what yours is ‘missing’ (if anything). Mine is missing the charging tray and the alcantara cover on the sun shade. Would I trade for a ‘23 with split headlights and two iPads stuck on my dash? Sorry, no chance in hell. Once we see what happens with iDrive 8.5 or 9 - or better yet, what comes in 2027, we’ll be in a better position to judge the LCI mess. |
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05-27-2023, 12:59 AM | #13 |
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Many 2022s had minimal or zero deletions (e.g. my 2022). Many 2024s still have deletions, I've seen photos here recently of new cars with cloth sunshades. On *all* units of the new version, the interior door lock/unlock buttons are plastic instead of metallized, and they're missing comfort access touch sensors on the rear door handles.
The older version has iDrive 7, better looking screen setup, *buttons*, more and imo more tasteful ambient lighting, laser headlights, exterior doesn't look horrible, and it can be coded. The newer version has better tech if equipped with it - better self driving, better parking system, trailer backup assist, UWB support for enhanced phone key functionality (previous version only has NFC). Maybe some more things I'm forgetting. And mild hybrid which can be argued as a good or bad thing. I personally would never buy a almost-new car with minimal miles on it. It's certainly possible that someone simply had second thoughts after a few months of ownership... but there's a high chance that it has major issues which could not be fixed, and which will cause you endless grief when you own the car, and make it expensive to leave this car when you end up deciding to get rid of it. Last edited by PinkNinja400Guy; 05-27-2023 at 01:10 AM.. |
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05-27-2023, 09:35 AM | #14 |
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I agree that it’s good to be cautious with low mile new vehicle trade-ins. I will never sell a questionable vehicle to anyone. I will honestly say, I’m the exception to the rule. I believe in having integrity and building lifelong business relationships with my clients. It means so much when I start getting client family and friend referrals. Unfortunately, I can’t say the same with so many other salespeople who are after the max profit.
To my previous point, our dealership does have clients who literally flips new cars every 6-12mo. and hardly even drives them. One particular client has a stable of cars(10+) and gets bored very quickly. He just received his Porsche GT3rs and I have zero doubt it will be for sale or traded in before end of ‘24 if not sooner. I don’t understand it but I guess for some it’s a hobby. We also have another client who is around 70yrs and keeps her car for exactly 1yr., then trades it in. The last one she traded in was a 2022 m50i with under 3k mi. Crazy right. |
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I've bought 2 CPOs. One driven by an older woman and has had Zero issues. Another a 30s man that had to go in for multiple engine check lights (all under CPO warranty) |
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05-27-2023, 12:10 PM | #16 |
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I'd go for a '24 April or later build. I'd also consider a '21 CPO M50 if the price & condition is good, and hold onto it until 2027 refresh.
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Although I personally don't have any evidence/experience with MY2022, posts made by BMW5and7 on that thread as well as others sounded rather intense. While I guess it's anecdotal, the level of affirmation their posts was too high for me to overlook. Your experience with your 2022 holds the same weightage so in that regard so I will definitely take your invaluable experience into consideration going forward. Mine is not missing anything since mine is a unicorn build (truly fully-loaded) MY2020 M50i, but if I were to own a 2022 X7 M50i then I'd incessantly complain about the absence of Night Vision with Pedestrian Detection, Ambient Air package, and Rear-Seat Entertainment system (except on the MY2022 XB7s, where RSE system was offered at times) to name what I consider to be big ticket "rare/neat options" (from my initial post). Although I never detailed it anywhere on my initial post, perhaps I should have been more clear in my initial post when I stated, "... option deletions on the 2022s ... " as I feel like some might get the impression that a lot of features were deleted (even though I never explicitly stated that). For the record the MY2022 is not bad by any means nor did it have a high number of option deletions; rather, it had a couple of options deleted that I previously mentioned. I should also follow that up with: while those options might not seem substantial to some, it means every bit of an X7 M50i to me. And so, much in the same way that some opine that they don't like the X7 LCI design or the iDrive 8, my opinion holds its value (as an opinion, of course) when I say that I consider the (few) option deletions for the MY2022 M50i compared to the MY2020 M50i is substantial while others may not. Coming back to '22 X7 M50i vs. '24 X7 M60i, I personally would get the '24 X7 M60i for the reasons detailed in my initial post. |
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05-27-2023, 11:01 PM | #19 |
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Options unavailability is pretty much equivalent between 2022 and LCI though. You can't get night vision on LCI, you can't get RSE on LCI, not sure about ambient air but I don't think it's available still. B&W is the main difference, 2022 didn't have it but LCI does.
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