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[CarlosDanger1]

Interesting. What are the annoying three pink blinking lights on the dash?

[Encanto]

Originally Posted by CarlosDanger1

Interesting. What are the annoying three pink blinking lights on the dash?

That is the camera refresh rate.

[Haywood]

"The iDrive 8 is a step up from the old system... I don't like the new iDrive. It's a step backwards!"

[jeffc42]

Originally Posted by CarlosDanger1

Interesting. What are the annoying three pink blinking lights on the dash?

They're for the Driver Attention Camera, part of the Attentiveness Assistant. It's invisible to the human eye, but the camera is sensitive to infrared.

[Al Pinã]

These guys are one of the best YouTube.

[NightWriter]

Originally Posted by Haywood

"The iDrive 8 is a step up from the old system... I don't like the new iDrive. It's a step backwards!"

Yeah, this review--and others--are making me seriously reconsider my plan to wait for the LCI M3. I wish there would be a way to know whether the disappearing buttons will be a corporate-wide design theme, or whether that's primarily for the i-series...

[jeffc42]

Originally Posted by NightWriter

Yeah, this review--and others--are making me seriously reconsider my plan to wait for the LCI M3. I wish there would be a way to know whether the disappearing buttons will be a corporate-wide design theme, or whether that's primarily for the i-series...

The i4/iX dashboard design is supposed to move to other models when they're updated, so there's a real risk of that. It is emphatically not an EV thing.

[MadBimmeRad]

I love it
I hate it
I want it
I don't want it

Damn you BMW 🤯

[crono06]

Originally Posted by NightWriter

Yeah, this review--and others--are making me seriously reconsider my plan to wait for the LCI M3. I wish there would be a way to know whether the disappearing buttons will be a corporate-wide design theme, or whether that's primarily for the i-series...

Same here. Unfortunately by the time an M3 is in the cards for me, I think it may be the LCI and the new iDrive/lack of buttons are something that I'm deathly afraid of.

[Limegrntaln]

Three things kill it for me. Top Speed, range, and weight.

[NightWriter]

Originally Posted by jeffc42

The i4/iX dashboard design is supposed to move to other models when they're updated, so there's a real risk of that. It is emphatically not an EV thing.

Yeah, I know, but I meant that perhaps on the M cars, they might add back the (redundant) physical buttons for HVAC and 1-8 hotkeys, since the XM concept car had that. But more likely, parts sharing between the i4/4-series/3-series will dictate nearly identical dashes for the M3/M4 as well.

I'm also not a fan of the hexagonal speedo/tach virtual gauges, though in that arena it's more possible an ICE engine/M car would have additional, more sport-oriented "gauges." Though honestly I'd be happy with a digital rendition of classic BMW circular round analog gauges.

[Ibiza]

iDrive 8 is going to be a big joke considering that touch panel's are currently being removed from high margin cars such as M3/M4 and X7. Does BMW AG believe that loyal customer are taking them seriously regarding EV? Outside of Cali and the NE, EV is DOA. Quick charge time is still a joke at 30 min, as the charge time will have to get to below 15 min to have any traction for customers to consider especially who live in in areas with limited EV charge stations off of the US interstate roads.

[Haywood]

Originally Posted by Ibiza

iDrive 8 is going to be a big joke considering that touch panel's are currently being removed from high margin cars such as M3/M4 and X7. Does BMW AG believe that loyal customer are taking them seriously regarding EV? Outside of Cali and the NE, EV is DOA. Quick charge time is still a joke at 30 min, as the charge time will have to get to below 15 min to have any traction for customers to consider especially who live in in areas with limited EV charge stations off of the US interstate roads.

So, what are they supposed to do? Not get into the EV game? Fortunately, you're in the minority when it comes to reviews of the IX and i4. Also, if you don't think loyal customer will buy them, why are they sold out until MY2023? The i4 will out sell Tesla in 3-5 years. They are already close on many aspects and this is their first EV sedan. For me, this fits in nicely with my e39 and e36. I still get to enjoy the quality of a BMW and enjoy the benefits of an EV while maintaining my fun ICE cars.

[Ibiza]

As I pointed out Haywood your located on Long Island NY, which has very high gas prices. EV's fit in there, perfect for the Americana. Head over to the M forums and EV support is the minority. How many units is BMW NA selling to be sold out? If production is limited, then very easy to sell out when units are restricted to be sold. Very easy to sell out to the early movers, but getting the masses to accept will be a very big challenge. This why BMW is running a Super Bowl ad this weekend.

[techwhiz1]

Originally Posted by Ibiza

As I pointed out Haywood your located on Long Island NY, which has very high gas prices. EV's fit in there, perfect for the Americana. Head over to the M forums and EV support is the minority. How many units is BMW NA selling to be sold out? If production is limited, then very easy to sell out when units are restricted to be sold. Very easy to sell out to the early movers, but getting the masses to accept will be a very big challenge. This why BMW is running a Super Bowl ad this weekend.

Well I'm a member of the E90 and M forums and decided that the replacement for my twin turbo car should be an EV.

I'm a dyed in the wool BMW fan and have owned multiple M cars. I still have an X5 and a 2003 Mini Cooper S.

But I have owned/leased a Fiat 500e, Chevy Bolt and a little over a year ago I bought a 2020 Chevy Bolt.

The I4 M50 will be the 4th EV that has been a resident of my L2 charger. I look forward to getting my Fisker Ocean at the end of this year or early next.

We shall see if the masses buy them. The masses sure don't have an issue buying TM3. This car is an overall better car at roughly the same price point.

[spool twice]

The numbers will soon tell, I don't believe anyone in the US has one yet, but current demand absolutely exceeded BMW's expectations.

I predict 50/50 split in the US, and 70/30 split around the world since they seem more apparent to accept BEV's like the UK, Norway, NL, China etc etc..

Ibiza, I know what you mean. I wanted to do a performance delivery, but the charging stations in SC is...3rd world. There are only a handful on my drive through SC into FL, but I think my range anxiety has the best of me since it will likely make it to FL without a charge, but what's the fun in that if I can't go all out and do a few dragy runs right away?

Also, yes the i4 M50 talk is small on M forums. I am one of the M-guys who is converting (E46/E90 M3, now F82 M4cs).

[jeff2.0t]

Originally Posted by spool twice

Also, yes the i4 M50 talk is small on M forums. I am one of the M-guys who is converting (E46/E90 M3, now F82 M4cs).

Talks on M Forum is small because it is not an M period.

does that make it a failure and a bad car?

For my part, I am a BMW enthusiast and for a grocery getter this I4 M50i has nothing to envy to any other vehicle.

[hotrod182]

Originally Posted by Ibiza

iDrive 8 is going to be a big joke considering that touch panel's are currently being removed from high margin cars such as M3/M4 and X7. Does BMW AG believe that loyal customer are taking them seriously regarding EV? Outside of Cali and the NE, EV is DOA. Quick charge time is still a joke at 30 min, as the charge time will have to get to below 15 min to have any traction for customers to consider especially who live in in areas with limited EV charge stations off of the US interstate roads.

If you drive less than 200 miles/day, presumably, you plug in at home, and wake up to a fully charged EV. If you need an extra 100 miles on the road, it only takes about 12 minutes at a charger.

[hotrod182]

Originally Posted by jeff2.0t

Talks on M Forum is small because it is not an M period.

does that make it a failure and a bad car?

For my part, I am a BMW enthusiast and for a grocery getter this I4 M50i has nothing to envy to any other vehicle.

Except for the instant throttle that will leave a stock X3 M40, or 2019 M4 in any normal street acceleration encounter. All while averaging close to 100mpge.

[SteveinArizona]

Originally Posted by Ibiza

iDrive 8 is going to be a big joke considering that touch panel's are currently being removed from high margin cars such as M3/M4 and X7. Does BMW AG believe that loyal customer are taking them seriously regarding EV? Outside of Cali and the NE, EV is DOA. Quick charge time is still a joke at 30 min, as the charge time will have to get to below 15 min to have any traction for customers to consider especially who live in in areas with limited EV charge stations off of the US interstate roads.

I am in Arizona (not NE or California) and it is very difficult to find an EV to purchase. I was at Costco yesterday and met a guy driving a new VW ID4 and he told me had a real problem finding one to buy.

I think the idea that people don't want electric cars is the equivalent of an urban myth.

I do agree that we need more fast charging public outlets. Hopefully, they are coming.

[footie]

Originally Posted by Limegrntaln

Three things kill it for me. Top Speed, range, and weight.

Top speed 140mph, unless you live in Germany you will be losing your license well below this speed so I don’t fully understand when people complain about this sort of thing.

Range I do kind of get especially if you live in a vast country where journeys could leave you will range anxiety.

Weight, this is unfortunately a side effect of electric cars and until either battery performance improves to extend range or charging time drops dramatically that leads to not needing a load of batteries I can’t see anyway round this problem. The only plus is the weight is extremely low so compared to a regular 4 series this will actually corner way flatter.