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02-14-2019, 03:08 PM | #1 |
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Exhaust Help! RE Diablo vs Supersprint Race
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I've looked the exhaust guide which is helpful, but was hoping to have some input from owners of both systems. My current set up: -Euro headers (not yet installed) with OEM US section 1 -RE X Pipe -OEM mufflers Looking for something that's relatively quiet when cruising with minimal drone or rasp, and loud when I want it. Also want a system that looks good aesthetically- I ruled out Stromungs since in my opinion the tips stick too far out. The RE Diablos look amazing from outside the car. With that in mind, would the RE Diablos or SS Race be better for what I'm looking for? Any other systems I should consider? I looked at Eisenmann Race and Arqray, but those are a but more than I want to spend. I'm nervous about drone with the RE Diablos- is the SS race any better? RE Diablos: SS Race: |
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IMHO, both RE Diablos or SS Race will drone bad. I had SS Race (everything else stock) on my car all but a week before pulling them off. SS Powerloops would be your alternate if you don't like the looks of Stromungs, but those will set you back similarly to Eisenmann or Arqray
FYI - the SS Race tips stick out quite a bit too, if not more than Stromungs. I may have pictures of it on my car on here somewhere if you search. |
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SS Race and RE Diablos are a small step away from RPi's, definitely on the wrong end of the spectrum if you want quiet cruising. On the quieter end, you have Eisenmann Sport, Stromung, SS Powerloops, and Remus which should be pretty livable when cruising - but sound aggressive when on it (especially with your headers/x-pipe combo). Alternatively you may be able to slightly mod the OE exhaust for a more cost effective alternative, but IMO it doesn't sound quite as refined compared to an OE exhaust mod on something like the E9X M3 platform.
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Another vote on staying away from RE Diablos on your setup.
I had RE Diablos before doing euro headers and absolutely LOVED them. After I did headers however, it was simply way too loud for me, and would drone between 1800-2500 rpm. Did it sound awesome? Yes, it sounded glorious. HOWEVER I also DD the car in the warm months and it was just too much for day to day use. I ended up getting stromungs, requesting that they install the E9x M3 tips instead, and could not be happier. No real drone when cruising, and no tinny/raspy grossness that often comes with aftermarket exhaust setups. YMMV though, as I am still on stock x pipe and have a modded US section 1 for O2 sensors and EGT
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Pic of the stromungs installed on my M for reference:
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I have Rogue Diablos with Rogue X-Pipe, Super Sprint Headers and OEM Section 1. Tons of Drone and - like others have noted - one step down of only RPI cans. Sounds great when you're on it but I do get annoyed with the drone during longer distance drives.
Super Spring Power Loops might be your best choice.
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Yeah, like.. don't put a race exhaust system on a car you don't want to be obnoxiously loud, I guess?
Check out Remus as well, I think they're the best-sounding cans available for the Z4M. I haven't owned or run them but a few folks around here have. |
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A few more I did end up fixing the droop after the pictures were taken
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Not to beat a dead horse (but not caring if I do), but I've got both SS Race and RE Diablos on my M's. They will not meet your requirements and are LOUD all the time.
Catless headers ramp up the volume further, and with high flow cats (DKF s-pipe or SS s-pipe), everyone within 1/4 mile will know if your throttle pedal position changed by 1/4". RE Diablos have more rasp, and they sound meaner at low rpm. It's like you're driving a tyrannosaurus. The SS Race have less rasp and have less character around town. At high rpm though, they emit an F1-like howl that has to be one of the best-sounding Z4M exhausts out there. I prefer RE Diablos 80% of the time, and SS Race when I want to drive at 5k+ rpm. They are both mild with otherwise stock systems IMHO, where they drone but it's tolerable. RE Diablos sound tougher, and SS Race sound like a slightly louder stock system with a subwoofer. I don't recommend either setup for your requirements. They will both be loud and drone like C-130.
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The Eisenmann 84mm tips are perfect IMHO |
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02-16-2019, 03:19 PM | #16 |
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+1 Agreed
You really don't need to overthink this. RE Diablos, as well as any other loud exhaust, will only drone if you are driving the S54 in the wrong gear. Simple fix; don't.
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Ended up ordering the Remus exhaust. My fear is it will be too quiet- but it looks great, and I think pairing it with the CSL headers and Rogue X Pipe should help turn up the volume. Besides, I'll probably want to listen to my Evolve airbox more once I have it installed!
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They're based in UK but maybe this might be an option for someone who wants some civility and nice sound up top? https://z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=94382 No personal experience with it though.
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Have to say I'm pretty happy with the Remus so far! Paired with the RE X Pipe, there is absolutely zero drone and the car is quiet during cruising and idle. It is much louder though when applying throttle, with a deeper tone than stock. Definitely a bit louder than I thought it would be based on the reviews here. As the reviews noted, the exhaust does actually get louder as it warms up.
I imagine once I get the CSL headers installed it should sound perfect to me. As is, I still get some nice burbles and pops on decel. Fitment was spot on- the tips aren't too big or too small. |
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There was some weirdness- they mounted a bracket near the exhaust hangers that require you to smush the rubber hanger. I read some other people actually cut it off. If you have a set you'll know what I'm talking about. I'm trying to get the right side tips to angle perfectly, although that may just be user error. The best part is definitely the sound- it just sounds high quality- zero drone and a nice wail when you get on it. I'll have to update once I get the headers installed (tomorrow!). |
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Ok, CSL headers are in. All I can say is it sounds awesome. Still no drone from the Remus mufflers, but a lot more volume at throttle and lots of lovely gurgles and pops on decel. It absolutely screams on the way to redline but is still very quiet around town. Rev matching is just lovely.
Definitely recommend this set up. I haven't heard the other exhuasts in person, but I don't see a downside- quiet when you want it, and loud when you want it. |
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