Official Motorscorpion camera mount thread

[ZStig]

Originally Posted by cliffhopper

Something like this:

http://teamassociated.com/parts/details/9884/

I wouldn't know how to mount it though.

I'll start with the rubber suspended microphone thing I posted and If that doesn't work, I'll add Sorbothane washers and a sheet of it under the camera attachment point. I've read that it works great for reducing vibration. Its not cheap, at $20 for a set of 12 washers.

[gcochard]

The microphone mounts are generally used to keep a mic steady without external forces trying to bounce it. Seems like it may cause even more vibration if it starts resonating.

[ZStig]

Thanks for the heads up. I think picking the right resistance RC suspension would be very challenging, so I'll start with those special washers

[tikamak]

How do you shift so fast 1st-2nd ?
i don't see the slight pause that i need to do in order not to grind.

Can you please elaborate roffle?

Do you have an SSK or some transmission mounts or different transmission fluid?

[ZStig]

Originally Posted by tikamak

How do you shift so fast 1st-2nd ?
i don't see the slight pause that i need to do in order not to grind.

Can you please elaborate roffle?

Do you have an SSK or some transmission mounts or different transmission fluid?

Which video and which part are you talking about? I've never had any issues with the 1-2 grind, and I've had years of practice. Stock mounts and fluids and ssk. In fact, I shift slower with an ssk because of the increased effort. Its just the timing of my clutch and arm movement, when shifting fast there is some interlap of both.

Thanks for the compliment, I'll make some better ones of the shifting =)

[tikamak]

this one :

@26 secs

You make a quick shift, i normally have to pause half a second here and then 2nd gear would shatter the earth underneath and hell will freeze over.

yet you make it so smooth and peaceful as if you were not thinking about the shifting at all.

[iPhoneEngineer]

Originally Posted by Roffle Waffle

He actually pulled into the street right after me, but in the opposite direction. So 5 seconds later I floored it. hahaha

This will be awesome for autocross videos. So glad I caught a great sun-down with my test runs. My next goal is some careful wet road sliding videos

The cop is one worry--but I think he meant the tunnel!

Absolutely awesome rig, never seen any real-world video from this perspective. I can't wait to see more productions with it, even without further stability improvements

[iPhoneEngineer]

Originally Posted by Shipkiller

How about testing out a camera that has image stabilization? That might help a little.

Based on the magnitude of the vibration (judging by how visible it is even with an ultra-wide-angle lens, and the length of the bars from the part that is flexing), I have doubts that opto-mechanical image stabilization will help that much. In fact, I've tried mounting a camera with image stabilization on my car, and quickly felt it was rattling it to pieces--there's no doubt they weren't designed to operate in such continuously vibrating conditions. The technology is a near miracle in reducing normal hand-held shakes, but the road vibrations are also a lot quicker too.

That said, I think there could be great success with software-based image stabilization, especially if the video is shot at 60 or even 120fps (the original GoPro HD can do 60fps at 720p, and the new HERO2 supports 120fps at some resolution). I would do this in Final Cut Pro, but there are probably simpler software packages available that can do it. This technique will sacrifice a margin around the border of the video because it effectively needs to crop frames in different places and then translate them horizontally and vertically to line up with the previous frame, but I don't think it would need to crop enough to be really detrimental to the awesome effect!

[ZStig]

Originally Posted by iPhoneEngineer

The cop is one worry--but I think he meant the tunnel!

Absolutely awesome rig, never seen any real-world video from this perspective. I can't wait to see more productions with it, even without further stability improvements

thanks man! Good tip about shooting at 60fps. I'll have to "buy" finalcut pro, but I doubt I'm smart enough to learn it. But then again I just need it for one function. Let me know if you find a simpler program, maybe one that just specializes in image stabilization

[iPhoneEngineer]

Originally Posted by Roffle Waffle

thanks man! Good tip about shooting at 60fps. I'll have to "buy" finalcut pro, but I doubt I'm smart enough to learn it. But then again I just need it for one function. Let me know if you find a simpler program, maybe one that just specializes in image stabilization

I will let you know how the HERO2 goes, as well; some say it handles vibration better that the original. I don't have a delivery estimate yet.

Do you have a Mac or a PC? I didn't immediately find a good stand-alone solution with a brief search on the web. iMovie is a lot cheaper / comes with Macs, and almost certainly has video stabilization filters as well.

[EenyBear]

Wow! That's a great combination of ingenuity and, frankly, guts!
I really enjoyed the ride-along. I also appreciate what a little extra power might be like...

I offer the following only because you seem to be "handy" and might want to pursue this further.

Here's a simple gimbal design using a skateboard bearing and PVC:
http://www.yb2normal.com/DIYsteadicam.html

The gimbal will add weight but your latest design may be robust enough. You'll have to decide of course.

Although there are a few DIY shock-cord mounts similar to a mic cage, I would agree with the comments above that oscillation at speed will likely make things worse and, under extreme conditions, tear the camera loose. The gimbal design shows promise, however.

Best regards.

[ZStig]

This place is awesome for brainstorming

[gcochard]

Take a look here for more inspiration: http://www.filmtools.com/succupmoun.html

Here's an excerpt from the page...
"Note: The beefier the mount, the less harmonic vibration will occur. More mass = less harmonics and vibration."

[ZStig]

Originally Posted by cliffhopper

Take a look here for more inspiration: http://www.filmtools.com/succupmoun.html

Here's an excerpt from the page...
"Note: The beefier the mount, the less harmonic vibration will occur. More mass = less harmonics and vibration."

the 3 steel 60" pipes definitely have a bunch of mass to them. I just ordered some wheel bearings to build the guibo

[kklin]

Originally Posted by Roffle Waffle

He actually pulled into the street right after me, but in the opposite direction. So 5 seconds later I floored it. hahaha

This will be awesome for autocross videos. So glad I caught a great sun-down with my test runs. My next goal is some careful wet road sliding videos

I didn't even notice the police car until now! I meant at 9sec I was afraid the camera was going to be smashed into the underpass.

[ZStig]

heh, that bridge is tight.

You gotta stop by warminster sometime and teach me the best way to launch this car, and/or switch cars for a day

[ZStig]

well... building that guibo thing was a waste of time and $40. Once I got it together I realised that the whole center mass with weights will just swing forwards and backwards as the car accelerates and decelerates. Not to mention it doesn't quell small vibrations too well. Its good for walking around the house like in the sample video... I guess

Going to order those washers next

[avsbmw]

awesome video! your car looks fast!!!!

[avsbmw]

what size wheels/tires/suspension are you running?

[ZStig]

Originally Posted by avsbmw

awesome video! your car looks fast!!!!

thanks bro

[ZStig]

Originally Posted by avsbmw

what size wheels/tires/suspension are you running?

18x9 Volk TE-37 in flat black. With ltw spacers making it et 38 in the front, et 20 in the back. Bridgestone RE-11, 265/35/18 all around, with -2.5* camber all around

H&R springs

pics here

http://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=598658

[avsbmw]

awesome thanks! im looking for a track wheel set up and the volks look so good but so do the apex wheels