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View Poll Results: Will Donald Trump be Impeached or will this blowback on Biden
Orange Trump bad. Trump gone. 84 32.43%
Trump Trump-umphant. 88 33.98%
Inclusive 18 6.95%
Biden C4'd to oblivion. 75 28.96%
Biden grows in strength and gets shot in the arm for nomination. 10 3.86%
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      01-25-2020, 10:51 AM   #6117
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Philbin is blowing the entire House process to pieces. No vote to authorize subpoenas, no due process

And he's just presenting it with cold logic, not emotional investment

First I have spent more than 5 minutes watching
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I'm listening to the Pubs. So far 75% of what I'm hearing is character assassination of the House members. Not sure what it has to do with the charges leveled against Trump.

EDIT: Well, that was quick.
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I' 75% of what I'm hearing is character assassination of the House members. Not sure what it has to do with the charges leveled against Trump.
By "character assassination" you mean effectively showed their arguments didn't hold water? And of course proving accusations against the President are false has nothing to do with the charges...umm..ok
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I watched it all. Philbin hit it out of the park. Brilliant to use the Facts that the Dems had but chose to omit. Sadly, I doubt anyone has changed their opinion.
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      01-25-2020, 11:35 AM   #6122
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what's sad is that this start at 10am on a saturday morning when most people are not tuning in to political theater and by monday this will not get much if any at all.
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You'll see the news site is Reuters, not CNN.
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I'm speaking generally, not specifically. And please read the entire story you posted. It provides quite a few questioning tidbits.
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      01-25-2020, 11:43 AM   #6124
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You'll see the news site is Reuters, not CNN.
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I'm speaking generally, not specifically. And please read the entire story you posted. It provides quite a few questioning tidbits.
What does your secret conservative source say?
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what's sad is that this start at 10am on a saturday morning when most people are not tuning in to political theater and by monday this will not get much if any at all.
Itís pouring here so worked out well. Iím actually going to watch CNN now and see what kind of coverage - spin they give.
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What does your secret conservative source say?
The same thing they've always said:

"This is a BS political ploy and shows the desperation of the DNC."

You're observing what happens when one has no substance, make something up, verify it in an echo chamber, and it unravels when exposed to the light of actual justice.
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what's sad is that this start at 10am on a saturday morning when most people are not tuning in to political theater and by monday this will not get much if any at all.
It’s pouring here so worked out well. I’m actually going to watch CNN now and see what kind of coverage - spin they give.
https://apnews.com/2ce0cdd506b5347b69607a1cabe7d1ab


WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump's lawyers opened his Senate impeachment defense Saturday with the false assertion that Democrats tried to shut the president's team out of the congressional inquiry that preceded the charges. Actually, Democrats invited Trump to participate and he declined


CIPOLLONE: Democrats "hid evidence" from the Senate impeachment trial in their opening arguments.

THE FACTS: This is an iffy definition of hiding something. Cipollone spoke about the July 25 phone call between Trump and Ukraine's president, which is at the heart of the impeachment case, and cited certain passages that Democrats did not play up or mention in their prosecution argument.

The rough transcript of that conversation is a matter of public record, having been released by the White House, and is far from hidden.
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What does your secret conservative source say?
The same thing they've always said:

"This is a BS political ploy and shows the desperation of the DNC."

You're observing what happens when one has no substance, make something up, verify it in an echo chamber, and it unravels when exposed to the light of actual justice.
I am all too familiar with it. It's called being a Trumpster.
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https://apnews.com/2ce0cdd506b5347b69607a1cabe7d1ab


WASHINGTON (AP) ó President Donald Trump's lawyers opened his Senate impeachment defense Saturday with the false assertion that Democrats tried to shut the president's team out of the congressional inquiry that preceded the charges. Actually, Democrats invited Trump to participate and he declined


CIPOLLONE: Democrats "hid evidence" from the Senate impeachment trial in their opening arguments.

THE FACTS: This is an iffy definition of hiding something. Cipollone spoke about the July 25 phone call between Trump and Ukraine's president, which is at the heart of the impeachment case, and cited certain passages that Democrats did not play up or mention in their prosecution argument.

The rough transcript of that conversation is a matter of public record, having been released by the White House, and is far from hidden.
A "rough transcript" could hide many things or misrepresent them totally.
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WASHINGTON (AP) ó President Donald Trump's lawyers opened his Senate impeachment defense Saturday with the false assertion that Democrats tried to shut the president's team out of the congressional inquiry that preceded the charges. Actually, Democrats invited Trump to participate and he declined


CIPOLLONE: Democrats "hid evidence" from the Senate impeachment trial in their opening arguments.

THE FACTS: This is an iffy definition of hiding something. Cipollone spoke about the July 25 phone call between Trump and Ukraine's president, which is at the heart of the impeachment case, and cited certain passages that Democrats did not play up or mention in their prosecution argument.

The rough transcript of that conversation is a matter of public record, having been released by the White House, and is far from hidden.
Liberal Hack. Look at his associations.
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Because Joe and Hunter have nothing to do with whether or not the President abused his power of office or obstructed Congress?

No, they have everything to do with it. The charge is Trump illegally, by breaking campaign finance laws, asked for investigation into Biden family corruption. If it is discovered the Bindens are corrupt, then Trump would have been derelict in his duties not to find out if a potential presidential candidate is corrupt.

What made sense about Hunter being on the Board of AMTRAK?

Made no sense at all, just as it makes no sense he was on the board of Burisma other than Biden family corruption. The reason is his Pop was a Senator and VP - depending on the time frame
Wait.....what?
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A "rough transcript" could hide many things or misrepresent them totally.
It's the transcript the White House provided. It's the only thing the Dems have available to them. (I assume that is also the case for the Pubs.) And I agree, it could do all of the things you mention.

Looking at the character assassination stuff again, it probably is more a case of the Pubs trying to undermine credibility rather than directly attack character. Still seems like a lot of needless smoke.
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WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump's lawyers opened his Senate impeachment defense Saturday with the false assertion that Democrats tried to shut the president's team out of the congressional inquiry that preceded the charges. Actually, Democrats invited Trump to participate and he declined


CIPOLLONE: Democrats "hid evidence" from the Senate impeachment trial in their opening arguments.

THE FACTS: This is an iffy definition of hiding something. Cipollone spoke about the July 25 phone call between Trump and Ukraine's president, which is at the heart of the impeachment case, and cited certain passages that Democrats did not play up or mention in their prosecution argument.

The rough transcript of that conversation is a matter of public record, having been released by the White House, and is far from hidden.
A "rough transcript" could hide many things or misrepresent them totally.
Then release them, along with the other documents. Let people testify. Be transparent.
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WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump's lawyers opened his Senate impeachment defense Saturday with the false assertion that Democrats tried to shut the president's team out of the congressional inquiry that preceded the charges. Actually, Democrats invited Trump to participate and he declined


CIPOLLONE: Democrats "hid evidence" from the Senate impeachment trial in their opening arguments.

THE FACTS: This is an iffy definition of hiding something. Cipollone spoke about the July 25 phone call between Trump and Ukraine's president, which is at the heart of the impeachment case, and cited certain passages that Democrats did not play up or mention in their prosecution argument.

The rough transcript of that conversation is a matter of public record, having been released by the White House, and is far from hidden.
Liberal Hack. Look at his associations.
Nope, senator Washbourne, or is it senator McSally.

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Gad! I just picked up on the fact the Trump wanted a subordinate (Ukr Ambassador) fired.
Imagine that, an elected official firing a holdover from the prior admin who didn't like or respect her new boss.
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Be careful. That's going to be called alt-right information.
Has the Trump defense challenged these facts yet:

Trump wanted investigations announced, not necessarily followed through on

He pursued this policy through Rudy Giuliani

Rudy Giuliani's assertions are fake, the ones about the Bidens, and the ones about the 2016 Ukraine interference

He (Trump)withheld a White House visit, and almost $400,000,000 in military aid to pursue this policy.
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