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View Poll Results: Will Donald Trump be Impeached or will this blowback on Biden
Orange Trump bad. Trump gone. 84 32.43%
Trump Trump-umphant. 88 33.98%
Inclusive 18 6.95%
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Biden grows in strength and gets shot in the arm for nomination. 10 3.86%
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      02-06-2020, 12:34 PM   #7129
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wondering if this is one of our left-leaning members?

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And this is why Trump is a stable genius compare to his opposition
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This would be a good idea.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ric...or-impeachment

Now if somebody would just do term limits...
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Personally I voted "Trump gone" while fully realizing it is just a pipe-dream because at that point GOP was fully embracing Trump's corruption and fascism, therefore his "aquittal" by the farcical kangaroo court was inevitable. It was simply my wish that I wanted to express, nothing more, that's why I checked this checkbox. Contrary to what you may think Liberals and Centrists are not stupid and most knew very well what the outcome would be. But do not let this prevent you from reading too much into this survey.
Come back when you've actually learned what fascism is and can accurately describe it. You sound like an ignorant child.
Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe

Trump fits a large portion of these:
Far right - check
Authoritarian - recent events have proven he wants no checks on his power
Ultranationalism - self avowed nationalist
Suppression of opposition - Lock her up, Bidens , press he does not like is "fake news"

So I'm not saying Trump is a fascist, but there are certain traits one can see.
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This would be a good idea.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ric...or-impeachment

Now if somebody would just do term limits...
The last paragraph of that article shows the Dems will not stop and will continue to find more ways to impeach. Not realizing that their chances of winning in Nov is slowly falling away. What a bunch of ignorant morons.
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I hope Matthew isn't out aimlessly running in the street.
Might be more productive lol
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As I have posted here many times, the person on this planet least likely to be a victim is Trump. What an idiotic narcissist.

https://apnews.com/504e331eeec5107afbe757e8d241a16d
WASHINGTON (AP) — Exulting in his impeachment acquittal, President Donald Trump took a scorched-earth victory lap Thursday, unleashing his fury against those who tried to remove him from office while looking ahead to his reelection campaign.

Trump, triumphantly waving a newspaper front page — “ACQUITTED” — denounced his political foes, declared the impeachment proceedings a “disgrace” and portrayed himself as a victim rather than a president accused of serious corruption. That echoed broadsides hours earlier that stunned the crowd at an annual prayer breakfast.

“It was evil, it was corrupt,” Trump declared at the White House. “This should never ever happen to another president, ever.”

“We went through hell, unfairly. We did nothing wrong,” he continued.
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Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe

Trump fits a large portion of these:
Far right - check
Authoritarian - recent events have proven he wants no checks on his power
Ultranationalism - self avowed nationalist
Suppression of opposition - Lock her up, Bidens , press he does not like is "fake news"

So I'm not saying Trump is a fascist, but there are certain traits one can see.
Authoritarian? He's breaking up a political cabal that has run amok.
Ultranationalism? Debatable.
Suppression of opposition? Nothing you described, above is suppressive. For suppression, please look up what university campuses have done with regard to conservatives speaking. That is suppression.


Your definition is slanted Wikipedia. Here are a couple of more that don't include the term far right.
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History will not be kind to those that voted to acquit before hearing from witnesses.
It's bigger than just impeachment, history won't be kind to the Trump Presidency or his supporters both in and out of government.

Romney made me proud I voted for him. I think he would've been a great President as it is obvious he isn't afraid to make an unpopular decision based on the facts of a situation.
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As I have posted here many times, the person on this planet least likely to be a victim is Trump. What an idiotic narcissist.

https://apnews.com/504e331eeec5107afbe757e8d241a16d
WASHINGTON (AP) — Exulting in his impeachment acquittal, President Donald Trump took a scorched-earth victory lap Thursday, unleashing his fury against those who tried to remove him from office while looking ahead to his reelection campaign.

Trump, triumphantly waving a newspaper front page — “ACQUITTED” — denounced his political foes, declared the impeachment proceedings a “disgrace” and portrayed himself as a victim rather than a president accused of serious corruption. That echoed broadsides hours earlier that stunned the crowd at an annual prayer breakfast.

“It was evil, it was corrupt,” Trump declared at the White House. “This should never ever happen to another president, ever.”

“We went through hell, unfairly. We did nothing wrong,” he continued.
He is right. As American citizens, I think we are all a victim of a political weaponization of a constitutional process. (Not to mention weaponization of federal agencies.) He is an American, hence, a victim as well, as are you. It was evil, it was corrupt, and I am sure he went through hell.

What is the problem?
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It's bigger than just impeachment, history won't be kind to the Trump Presidency or his supporters both in and out of government.

Romney made me proud I voted for him. I think he would've been a great President as it is obvious he isn't afraid to make an unpopular decision based on the facts of a situation.
I think he's fashioning himself to be the next John McCain. Not the war hero part, but the backbone part. Do what's right for the country, not just for your party.
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Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe

Trump fits a large portion of these:
Far right - check
Authoritarian - recent events have proven he wants no checks on his power
Ultranationalism - self avowed nationalist
Suppression of opposition - Lock her up, Bidens , press he does not like is "fake news"

So I'm not saying Trump is a fascist, but there are certain traits one can see.
And you wonder why people stopped taking you serious.

I'm not even going to waste my time on you.
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By George T. Conway III
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I believe the president, and in the president.

I believe the Senate is right to acquit the president. I believe a fair trial is one with no witnesses, and that the trial was therefore fair. I believe the House was unfair because it found evidence against him. I believe that if the president does something that he believes will get himself reelected, that’s in the public interest and can’t be the kind of thing that results in impeachment.

I believe former national security adviser John Bolton has no relevant testimony because he didn’t leave the White House on good terms.

I believe the president’s call was perfect. I believe he is deeply concerned about corruption in Ukraine. I believe the president can find Ukraine on a map.


I believe Ukraine interfered with the 2016 election, and that the intelligence community’s suggestion otherwise is a Deep State lie. I believe the Democratic National Committee server is in Ukraine, where CrowdStrike hid it.

I believe President Barack Obama placed a “tapp” on the president’s phones in 2016, and that the Russia investigation was a plot to keep him from winning, even though the plotters didn’t think he could win.

I believe former special counsel Robert S. Mueller III was conflicted because he quit one of the president’s golf clubs, and that he and his Angry Democrats conducted a Witch Hunt to destroy the president. But I believe Mueller’s report totally exonerated the president, because it found no collusion and no obstruction.

I believe it would be okay for the president to say he grabs women by their p-----s, because he is a star, and stars are allowed to do that. But I believe he didn’t say that, even though he apologized for it, because I believe the “Access Hollywood” tape was doctored, because he said it was.

I believe E. Jean Carroll lied when she accused the president of rape, because he said she’s not his type. I believe the dozens of other women who accused him of sexual misconduct are also lying, because he would never think of grabbing them by their p-----s or anything else.

I believe the president didn’t know Michael Cohen was paying off porn star Stormy Daniels, and that Cohen did it on his own, because the president had no reason to pay her off. I believe the president was reimbursing Cohen for his legal expertise.

I believe the president is a good Christian, because TV pastors say so, and that it’s okay he doesn’t ask for God’s forgiveness, because he doesn’t need to, since he’s the Chosen One. I believe the president knows the Bible, and that two Corinthians are better than one.

I believe the president wants to release his taxes but has not because he’s under audit, which is why he has fought all the way to the Supreme Court not to disclose them. I believe he will disclose them when the audit is over, and that they will show him to be as rich and honest as he says he is.

I believe the president is a very stable genius, and that he repeatedly tells us so because it’s true.

I believe the president can spell. I believe any spelling mistakes he makes are because he’s a very busy man who doesn’t watch much TV, or because he’s intentionally triggering the libs.

I believe Hurricane Dorian was headed straight for Alabama. I believe the president’s map wasn’t altered with a Sharpie, and that if it was, he didn’t do it, since he didn’t need to because he was right.

I believe the president didn’t call Apple’s CEO “Tim Apple,” and that he said “Tim Cook of Apple” really, really fast, but that if he did say “Tim Apple,” it was to save words, which he always tries to do.

I believe windmills are bad and cause cancer. I believe there was a mass shooting in Toledo and that there were airports during the Revolution, because the president said so.

I believe the president is defeating socialism, despite the subsidies he’s paying to save farmers from his protectionism and the $3.2 trillion he’s added to the national debt during his term.

I believe the president has made tremendous progress building the wall, that Mexico paid for it in the trade deal, that the wall will soon run from San Diego to the Gulf of Mexico, that it will stop those caravans cold, and that it won’t fall down.

I believe the president has a 95 percent approval rating among Republicans, and that there’s no need to cite polls for that.

I believe the president had the largest inaugural crowd ever, regardless of what any photos from liberal bureaucrats might show.

I believe there is no longer a nuclear threat from North Korea.

I believe China pays all tariffs levied on imported Chinese goods.

I believe the president is truthful. I believe the Fake News media lied each of the 16,241 times they have said he has made a false or misleading claim.

I believe the president is selfless, and always puts the nation’s interests first. I believe he isn’t a narcissist, but he’d be entitled to be one if he were one. I believe the president would never exercise his presidential powers to advance his personal interests, but if he did, that would be okay, because whatever is in his personal interests is necessarily in the nation’s interests as well.

I believe Article II of the Constitution gives the president the right to do whatever he wants.
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Authoritarian? He's breaking up a political cabal that has run amok.
Ultranationalism? Debatable.
Suppression of opposition? Nothing you described, above is suppressive. For suppression, please look up what university campuses have done with regard to conservatives speaking. That is suppression.

Your definition is slanted Wikipedia. Here are a couple of more that don't include the term far right.

Wrong again! Hopefully you'll do much better in the "lightning round".

He is actually, as we watch, creating a new "cabal" with the GOP, though it's not so secret. But it is damnably dishonest.
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wondering if this is one of our left-leaning members?

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Wth is he saying?
complete TDS meltdown.

current state of liberals.

my first thought is that it was a certain someone in this thread, but without substantiation, I won't name names.
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And you wonder why people stopped taking you serious.

I'm not even going to waste my time on you.
The trumpsters don't take me seriously? Maybe because I don't buy the Trump bullshit. I'm not part of their echo chamber.

Go to "reddit" if you want an echo chamber.
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Ultranationalism? Debatable.
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Your second picture says fascism has a capitalism component. I agree. I can't wait for the "Nazis were socialists" people to chime in.
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Please tell me that their lawyer hasn't pinned their hopes to a phone bill

Adam Schiff is no Tom Cruise. Trump may or may not be Jack Nicholson.
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He is right. As American citizens, I think we are all a victim of a political weaponization of a constitutional process. (Not to mention weaponization of federal agencies.) He is an American, hence, a victim as well, as are you. It was evil, it was corrupt, and I am sure he went through hell.

What is the problem?
He is not a victim. The articles of impeachment were correct.

But narcissists & sociapaths like to portray themselves as victims.
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Adam Schiff is no Tom Cruise. Trump may or may not be Jack Nicholson.
Absolutely Jack!
Wait, were you thinking of a different movie?
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