Z4 Coupe Vs. F-Type

Efthreeoh · 08-01-2015, 08:16 AM

I found this interesting....

SDCoupe · 08-01-2015, 08:32 AM

That is interesting. Eight years later the E85/86 still compares well. And those numbers are conservative. Car and Driver tested 0-60 at 5.1.

Efthreeoh · 08-01-2015, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SDCoupe

That is interesting. Eight years later the E85/86 still compares well. And those number are conservative. Car and Driver tested 0-60 at 5.1.

The Car and Driver test I read had the Z4 Coupe at 5.5, but I think I've seen that 5.1 spec too. That's what started this with me. The base Jag F-type really doesn't advance much farther past a 8 year old Z4.

gas-can · 08-01-2015, 10:36 AM

Interesting...Didn't realize the F was so heavy.

I love the sound of the F though. It's gorgeous!

On top of the performance, have to admit the Z's are aging really well. 9 years old and people still ask me if it's brand new lol. Kept clean, these cars are just beautiful and still look great from the right angle.

-gc

garberz · 08-01-2015, 11:40 AM

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......On top of the performance, have to admit the Z's are aging really well. 9 years old and people still ask me if it's brand new lol. Kept clean, these cars are just beautiful and still look great from the right angle.

-gc

I couldn't agree more.

RADRACR · 08-01-2015, 01:31 PM

Not to bring ///M into it, but ///M is an even closer match. A little heavier, but not quite as heavy as the Jag. I'd suspect performance around a track would be a wash.

jophish17 · 08-01-2015, 01:48 PM

All of that extra power and torque is wasted with the added weight. Not surprising but still amazing

SDCoupe · 08-01-2015, 02:30 PM

I guess it was motor trend with the 5.1 time.

http://m.motortrend.com/roadtests/co...pe_comparison/

Efthreeoh · 08-01-2015, 04:51 PM

I think the F-Type Coupe is stunningly beautiful, but the engineering hasn't seemed to advance the art much after 10 years or so.

KevinM · 08-01-2015, 09:52 PM

The numbers are similar but the experience couldn't be different. I love my Z4M coupe and would never give it up for an F-type, but the manual V6-S F-type must be a wonderful thing based on my drives in a auto V6-S. The Jag is a very exiting car; the sound is wonderful, the torque just right there, all the time. Try one. But keep your coupe!

GuidoK · 08-02-2015, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SDCoupe

I guess it was motor trend with the 5.1 time.

http://m.motortrend.com/roadtests/co...pe_comparison/

All those times are very extreme and a bit implausible.

Have any of you ever tried to set a well measured 0-60 time and recorded it? So that is with a vbox or any other 10hz gps device? (so not with an obd2 device or smartphone 1hz gps etc).

I know you'll going to find that factory 5.7sec time (thats 0-62mph officially, or rather 0-100kmh) pretty hard to beat.
0-60mph may show up as 5.5 or so, but not 5.1 I think.

Huz-Z · 08-02-2015, 09:55 AM

I like the sound and interior of the jag but re the exterior, to me I have a hard time telling it from a new Miata, I still get great comments on the Z though!

KevinM · 08-02-2015, 12:11 PM

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I like the sound and interior of the jag but re the exterior, to me I have a hard time telling it from a new Miata, I still get great comments on the Z though!

Really?? Each his own of course.

Efthreeoh · 08-02-2015, 06:50 PM

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Really?? Each his own of course.

That is seriously one piece of nice ass...

David70 · 08-03-2015, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Huz-Z

I like the sound and interior of the jag but re the exterior, to me I have a hard time telling it from a new Miata, I still get great comments on the Z though!

Huz-Z · 08-03-2015, 08:19 AM

I agree that the F Coupe is a looker, but in person, the F roadster doesn't stand out to me. Although I confess that it surely sounds great. There is a white F Type roadster here in my town and to be honest, I think it looks a bit plain.

Twixboy · 08-03-2015, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

The Car and Driver test I read had the Z4 Coupe at 5.5, but I think I've seen that 5.1 spec too. That's what started this with me. The base Jag F-type really doesn't advance much farther past a 8 year old Z4.

Looking only at 0-60 times it doesn't advance that much further, but that's due to the extra weight that's necessary for all the new safety standards that have been put in place over the past 8 years. I haven't driven the F-Type but I'm willing to bet the sound dampening is much better, the materials feel more solid, and the luxury features/electronics are far better. I don't even have to drive it to know the F-Type is a safer and more comfortable daily driver. All that adds to the weight, which requires a more powerful engine which adds to the price. Because of this, it's hard to compare new cars to old cars.

Twixboy · 08-03-2015, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Huz-Z

I agree that the F Coupe is a looker, but in person, the F roadster doesn't stand out to me. Although I confess that it surely sounds great. There is a white F Type roadster here in my town and to be honest, I think it looks a bit plain.

Does the roadster look different from the coupe aside from the ragtop/roof? I haven't seen the roadster, but the first time I saw the coupe closing the gap behind me I thought it was an exotic car. I like it.

Efthreeoh · 08-03-2015, 09:07 PM

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Looking only at 0-60 times it doesn't advance that much further, but that's due to the extra weight that's necessary for all the new safety standards that have been put in place over the past 8 years. I haven't driven the F-Type but I'm willing to bet the sound dampening is much better, the materials feel more solid, and the luxury features/electronics are far better. I don't even have to drive it to know the F-Type is a safer and more comfortable daily driver. All that adds to the weight, which requires a more powerful engine which adds to the price. Because of this, it's hard to compare new cars to old cars.

Ahh, I'm not so sure the safety standards between 2006 and 2014 have driven the need for such weight gain. The Z4 is a damned safe car as it is. Safety in the modern age is incremental at best. I think the weight gain is due to less then optimized engineering, and a larger chassis over all (but not offering much increase in interior and cargo volume). A chassis shared with upcoming sedans and SUVs (what BMW very recently used to advertise as "compromised" vehicle design).

That said, I say driving a car is like listening to loudspeakers... desire to own is much dependent on personal taste.

chickdr · 08-03-2015, 10:45 PM

The V8 version is in a entirely different league though... 550hp/502 ft-lbs would be amazing(3.9 sec 0-60), but then you are up to 3850lbs!!!

KevinM · 08-04-2015, 12:28 AM

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The V8 version is in a entirely different league though... 550hp/502 ft-lbs would be amazing(3.9 sec 0-60), but then you are up to 3850lbs!!!

Yes, you pay for your performance with the F-type. The V8 is not available with a a manual, so that is out for me. But I have to say I am tempted by a V6-S with a manual box. Right now I'm planning on adding an M2 (or F80 M3 if the M2 hoopla is too much for me to put up with - e.g., dealers wanting a surcharge above MSRP, etc.), but I keep looking at this damn car. Less performance, more money...seem like a no-brainer for one of the BMWs. However the coupe looks so good and I am not a street racer.

wdb · 08-05-2015, 07:57 AM

Top Gear did not like the ride of the F Type at all. Jarring, crashing over bumps, etc. And we all know how biased they are towards the British stuff. Plus IMESHO the level of noise made by the V8 borders on the ridiculous. I like the sound of motors just fine but I don't need a Harley Davidson with gutted mufflers following me around just to prove the point.

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SDCoupe First Lieutenant 78 Rep 335 Posts Drives: M Coupe Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: San Diego iTrader: (0)	That is interesting. Eight years later the E85/86 still compares well. And those numbers are conservative. Car and Driver tested 0-60 at 5.1.
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gas-can Second Lieutenant 25 Rep 204 Posts Drives: 2006 3.0i Roadster Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Interesting...Didn't realize the F was so heavy. I love the sound of the F though. It's gorgeous! On top of the performance, have to admit the Z's are aging really well. 9 years old and people still ask me if it's brand new lol. Kept clean, these cars are just beautiful and still look great from the right angle. -gc
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RADRACR Captain 84 Rep 924 Posts Drives: '08 Z4 M Coupé // '09 X5 d Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Sioux Falls, South Dakota iTrader: (2)	Not to bring ///M into it, but ///M is an even closer match. A little heavier, but not quite as heavy as the Jag. I'd suspect performance around a track would be a wash. __________________ '08 Z4 ///M Coupé (#1765/1815) — 1 of 68 Sepang Bronze / Black Nappa / Madeira Wood / 1 of 1 this combo 19" Advan RS / AP Racing / Bridgestone RE-11 / Autosolutions SSK / R.E. Diablo / R.E. trans mounts '09 X5 35d — Space Grey / Saddle Brown 20" Forgestar F14 / SCR Delete
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SDCoupe First Lieutenant 78 Rep 335 Posts Drives: M Coupe Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: San Diego iTrader: (0)	I guess it was motor trend with the 5.1 time. http://m.motortrend.com/roadtests/co...pe_comparison/
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Efthreeoh General 17202 Rep 18,693 Posts Drives: The E90 + Z4 Coupe & Z3 R'ster Join Date: May 2012 Location: Virginia iTrader: (0)	I think the F-Type Coupe is stunningly beautiful, but the engineering hasn't seemed to advance the art much after 10 years or so. __________________ A manual transmission can be set to "comfort", "sport", and "track" modes simply by the technique and speed at which you shift it; it doesn't need "modes", modes are for manumatics that try to behave like a real 3-pedal manual transmission. If you can money-shift it, it's a manual transmission. "Yeah, but NO ONE puts an automatic trans shift knob on a manual transmission."
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Huz-Z Brigadier General 846 Rep 4,057 Posts Drives: Z4 3.0si, 328 XDrive, X5 35i Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	I agree that the F Coupe is a looker, but in person, the F roadster doesn't stand out to me. Although I confess that it surely sounds great. There is a white F Type roadster here in my town and to be honest, I think it looks a bit plain. __________________ Huz-Z BMW Z4 3.0si Roadster. Montego Blue Metallic. Premium and Sport Package.
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chickdr Lieutenant Colonel 140 Rep 1,989 Posts Drives: 2006 M Roadster Join Date: May 2009 Location: Buford, GA iTrader: (0)	The V8 version is in a entirely different league though... 550hp/502 ft-lbs would be amazing(3.9 sec 0-60), but then you are up to 3850lbs!!!
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wdb dances with roads 4717 Rep 4,094 Posts Drives: '07 E86, '02 996, '95 Seven Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: the perimeter iTrader: (4)	Top Gear did not like the ride of the F Type at all. Jarring, crashing over bumps, etc. And we all know how biased they are towards the British stuff. Plus IMESHO the level of noise made by the V8 borders on the ridiculous. I like the sound of motors just fine but I don't need a Harley Davidson with gutted mufflers following me around just to prove the point.
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