Still want an EV?

[zx10guy]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

18-wheelers are slow and don't maneuver well. Kinda like dodging elephants. Teslas on the other hand are driven by tech geeks with no social skills and driving skills to match. Professional truck drivers earn a living by driving, so accidents really screw up their earning potential. I'll take a road full of semis when riding on my road bike rather than a road full of FSD impared Teslas. One thing successful motorcyclists learn, is how to stay out of blind spots.

While the Tesla TV screen depicts motorcycles, I'd rather the driver look out the windows and concentrate on driving, but that's just me.

I'd say FSD to take away some of the idiots actually driving would be an improvement.

I'd also say successful motorcyclists learn how to see things develop in front of them and know how to leverage various skills to avoid a collision. The many years of being on track and how to pick lines and passing slower riders, have taught me to envision places I can put my bike to get out of bad situations.

But I agree with you, that I rather have a driver actually drive and not being a zombie behind the wheel.

[shawnhayes]

Originally Posted by Murf the Surf

Maybe not twice the weight but significantly heavier. This causes me concern when it comes to damage in crashes and increased stopping distance for heavier vehicles. Interesting article here.

https://www.greencarreports.com/news...en-road-safety

I can't say that's wrong. But the trend has been that as cars have gotten heavier, they've also gotten safer. For everybody.

What I suspect is, though, continued evolution of the battery. If you compare a 2014 i3 to a 2019 i3...battery size and weight - same. Capacity of battery? Double. I suspect that evolution may continue. Slowly, but it will.

Shawn

[BGM-M3COMP]

All M cars are essentially 4000lbs and people want to say EV's are twice the weight and it's ruining the roads.

Talk about running out of excuses LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[RM7]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

All M cars are essentially 4000lbs and people want to say EV's are twice the weight and it's ruining the roads.

Talk about running out of excuses LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

And Mercedes AMG E and Audi RS6 Avant are heavier than Tesla Model S!

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by RM7

And Mercedes AMG E and Audi RS6 Avant are heavier than Tesla Model S!

Yeah and ALL THE SUV'S and pickups on the road. I guess that weight doesn't count because it's ICE lmaoooooo

It's all good. Time is only on the EV side. Every single fucking day that passes we get closer

[M5Rick]

Getting away from talking about M cars,AMG,Audi RS etc but the bulk of mass produced run-of-the-mill fuel cars you see every day like kia,ford focus,vw compared like for like with EV's see the electric cars much heavier, like it said in my last DM clip, and that means more road wear and tear, a worrying 'I'm alright Jack' attitude having a heavier vehicle should they be in an accident and someone also mentioned EV lorries also, not even worth contemplating what danger that would bring on public roads.

[M5Rick]

Some more from Rowan Atkinson on why you shouldn't buy an EV. Before becoming a successful actor he achieved a university degree in electronic engineering and then a Masters in control systems so knows something of what he's talking about (notwithstanding one or two car accidents he had).
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...rol-motor.html

[SoCal_NSX]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Getting away from talking about M cars,AMG,Audi RS etc but the bulk of mass produced run-of-the-mill fuel cars you see every day like kia,ford focus,vw compared like for like with EV's see the electric cars much heavier, like it said in my last DM clip, and that means more road wear and tear, a worrying 'I'm alright Jack' attitude having a heavier vehicle should they be in an accident and someone also mentioned EV lorries also, not even worth contemplating what danger that would bring on public roads.

lol...this kinda stuff is just more hyperbolic nonsense from a bunch of numbskulls who just throw shit against a wall in hopes it will stick....and in many corners of the internet it does, as seen by the above post.

a "run of the mill" Camry weighs about the same as a Model 3 and a 7 series weighs much more than a Model S

I know that you have crappy 1000 year old roads in England and everyone drives tiny cars, but we don't have those issues here and the average weight of a midsize sedan is the same weight as a Model 3

BMW 3 Series is pretty much the same exact weight as a Model 3 and a 7 Series is heavier than a Model S


enough with the nonsense about the weight, it's a ridiculous argument against EV's...stick to the charge times, that actually is an issue for those who don't have home charging

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by SoCal_NSX

lol...this kinda stuff is just more hyperbolic nonsense from a bunch of numbskulls who just throw shit against a wall in hopes it will stick....and in many corners of the internet it does, as seen by the above post.

a "run of the mill" Camry weighs about the same as a Model 3 and a 7 series weighs much more than a Model S

I know that you have crappy 1000 year old roads in England and everyone drives tiny cars, but we don't have those issues here and the average weight of a midsize sedan is the same weight as a Model 3

BMW 3 Series is pretty much the same exact weight as a Model 3 and a 7 Series is heavier than a Model S

enough with the nonsense about the weight, it's a ridiculous argument against EV's...stick to the charge times, that actually is an issue for those who don't have home charging

There is more to it than charge times, as much as you'd like to sweep it under the carpet. Like for like EVs compared with same fuel models ARE heavier which is one of the many issues and it doesn't take Einstein to work out that heavier vehicles wear out roads quicker, not only in Britain and yeah that sticks like glue.

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by SoCal_NSX

lol...this kinda stuff is just more hyperbolic nonsense from a bunch of numbskulls who just throw shit against a wall in hopes it will stick....and in many corners of the internet it does, as seen by the above post.

a "run of the mill" Camry weighs about the same as a Model 3 and a 7 series weighs much more than a Model S

I know that you have crappy 1000 year old roads in England and everyone drives tiny cars, but we don't have those issues here and the average weight of a midsize sedan is the same weight as a Model 3

BMW 3 Series is pretty much the same exact weight as a Model 3 and a 7 Series is heavier than a Model S


enough with the nonsense about the weight, it's a ridiculous argument against EV's...stick to the charge times, that actually is an issue for those who don't have home charging

Lmaoooooooo

Got ‘em!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by KRS_SN

brother in law has a toyota hilux..he took me off roading in a mountainous area. The tyre climbed over one particular rectangular piece of rock the size of a Coffin and the chassis landed on the rock with an almighty thud...
He carried on and got the other wheels over the Rock and then stopped the car with a worried expression and stepped out and came back and told me ..."don't worry that rock is ok" .. 6 yrs on its had zero problems.

Well surprise surprise, fatso has resigned as an m P from the house by the river, the one who brought in this '30 date for electrification b/c his wife told him to, I say good riddance for this waste of space and sorry to hear more news coming through of what's happening in your town with the traffic control.

[KRS_SN]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Well surprise surprise, fatso has resigned as an m P from the house by the river, the one who brought in this '30 date for electrification b/c his wife told him to, I say good riddance for this waste of space and sorry to hear more news coming through of what's happening in your town with the traffic control.

Good riddance. I wouldn’t have thought he would but he did sign us up to an impossible deadline.
Glasgow is nuts. The greens are in coalition with the nationalists and find new ways of making life harder for everyone and adding new taxes etc and turning thriving city centre businesses to ghost neighbourhoods by banning cars etc.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by KRS_SN

Good riddance. I wouldn’t have thought he would but he did sign us up to an impossible deadline.
Glasgow is nuts. The greens are in coalition with the nationalists and find new ways of making life harder for everyone and adding new taxes etc and turning thriving city centre businesses to ghost neighbourhoods by banning cars etc.

The date for the ul eZ review is coming very soon and the blues are strongly against it (but for the moment I'll keep quiet about that later 2030 date they introduced by fatso until this is hopefully sorted

[M5Rick]

Found another vid of what they're not telling you about EV's, plainly explained.

[KRS_SN]

Oh dear
https://youtu.be/1SEfwoqKRU8

[M5Rick]

EV's are not the answer for climate change and they won't save the planet.
(may have been posted before but important.

[M5Rick]

What do a man with diarrhea and a EV owner have in common?
They both hope to make it home.

[NickyC]

If anyone can solve the problem, it's Toyota. Would be amazing news if true.

https://www.pcmag.com/news/toyota-to...te-charging-by

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by NickyC

If anyone can solve the problem, it's Toyota. Would be amazing news if true.

Capitalism and Supply and Demand will will always fix the problem better than government. At least this technology most likely will have a retrofit possibility for EV's currently on the market.
"932-mile range and less than 10-minute charging times" This is a sweet spot more folks will find desirable.
I just priced out SS drives for our servers and I found them not to be cost effective so cost may take a good while to be competitive.

[BGM-M3COMP]

By 2027 huh?

Yup, just like I said by 2028-2030 this shit gets real.

2035 on the way!!!

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by NickyC

If anyone can solve the problem, it's Toyota. Would be amazing news if true.

https://www.pcmag.com/news/toyota-to...te-charging-by

The problem with Toyota is that they have making these types of claims going back to around 2016. Been a lot of vaporware. Totally awesome if they can truly deliver on these promises. But they seem to be masters of kicking the can down the road every time they announce something.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by gblansten

The problem with Toyota is that they have making these types of claims going back to around 2016. Been a lot of vaporware. Totally awesome if they can truly deliver on these promises. But they seem to be masters of kicking the can down the road every time they announce something.

It's all been vaporware. We've been told solid state is just around the corner for the last 20 years or so. And the article says nothing about cost...