Z4 design story

[grannyknot]

I'm sure someone has posted this before but I had never seen it so I thought I would put it up.

[racerbruce]

SO awesome....so expressive in design and communication.

[vt100]

Thanks grannyknot!

The guy is really proud of his work and I totally understand why (of course since I own Z4 and love it so much ).

But it makes me curious if designers of current BMW models would be able to say the same 10 - 20 years later?

[grannyknot]

Originally Posted by vt100

Thanks grannyknot!

The guy is really proud of his work and I totally understand why (of course since I own Z4 and love it so much ).

But it makes me curious if designers of current BMW models would be able to say the same 10 - 20 years later?

Not the designers that were responsible for the beaver teeth grills, they're probably removing that from their resume.

[Ragnar The Redneck]

Originally Posted by grannyknot

Not the designers that were responsible for the beaver teeth grills, they're probably removing that from their resume.

Beaver teeth? The new grills look like more like twin coffins than twin kidneys. Just hope it is not the death knell of BMW design! Long live (OO=00=OO) !!

[Gamb1t]

I remembered how it got so many negative reviews due to the "flamed" surfaces. How Chris Bangle bungled the design from the classic look of the Z3. IIRC there was a Top Gear video where Richard Hammond commented the Z4 coupe looks like an expression of a penis.
New designs are polarising in the beginning. I feel time as we see it today is kind to the e85/6.

[KevinC]

I follow him on Instagram. Now head of design for Rolls Royce.

[vt100]

Originally Posted by grannyknot

Not the designers that were responsible for the beaver teeth grills, they're probably removing that from their resume.

But it's not only the beaver teeth. Pretty much all the lines and surfaces on M3 and especially M4 look disconnected and not matching / complimenting each other. There is simply no harmony in the look. And these things look like prettiest cars on earth comparing to BMW's latest electric SUV..

PS: I feel like I should have been born 40 years earlier

[vt100]

Originally Posted by Gamb1t

I remembered how it got so many negative reviews due to the "flamed" surfaces. How Chris Bangle bungled the design from the classic look of the Z3. IIRC there was a Top Gear video where Richard Hammond commented the Z4 coupe looks like an expression of a penis.
New designs are polarising in the beginning. I feel time as we see it today is kind to the e85/6.

I'm not confident about the latest gen cars from BMW.. Certainly it's very subjective but I liked Z4 design from the very beginning. And I liked pretty much all the gens (starting from mid 80s) until F8x. It took me several month to get used to F8x. But I doubt I will ever be able to get used to G8x.. and more importantly I will never buy one..

PS: I really hope they won't destroy the look of the next gen M2. That's practically the only modern BMW car I still like.

[grannyknot]

Originally Posted by vt100

PS: I feel like I should have been born 40 years earlier

I was born 40yrs earlier and I would much rather be your age then my age.

[vt100]

Originally Posted by grannyknot

I was born 40yrs earlier and I would much rather be your age then my age.

hehe... that remark was solely about car design

PS: you drive Z and Datsun at age of 90?! I wish to have that much energy at that age

[Huz-Z]

Originally Posted by Gamb1t

I remembered how it got so many negative reviews due to the "flamed" surfaces. How Chris Bangle bungled the design from the classic look of the Z3. IIRC there was a Top Gear video where Richard Hammond commented the Z4 coupe looks like an expression of a penis.
New designs are polarising in the beginning. I feel time as we see it today is kind to the e85/6.

I totally agree. I believe the Top Gear guys commonly said things to be provocative or get a laugh. After all, in the Top Gear review of the Z4M roadster, Hammond compared the Z4M to the Boxster S and said the Z4M "is much better looking" and I am certain that Clarkson later remarked in a separate article that the E85 is a strikingly modern and crisp design.

I think the later E89 was a great looking car too although it was not as performance focused as the E85/86. While the new G29 seems to be a great performance car, I don't think that it will be remembered for its looks.

[Lucky1]

Originally Posted by vt100

I'm not confident about the latest gen cars from BMW.. Certainly it's very subjective but I liked Z4 design from the very beginning. And I liked pretty much all the gens (starting from mid 80s) until F8x. It took me several month to get used to F8x. But I doubt I will ever be able to get used to G8x.. and more importantly I will never buy one..

PS: I really hope they won't destroy the look of the next gen M2. That's practically the only modern BMW car I still like.

Agreed, I always liked it from the beginning. And it looks more consistently good from every angle than the Boxster, ESPECIALLY comparing from the rear. The front is a tossup; Boxster is gorgeous and looks like a Porsche when seen in one's rear view mirror. Plus you get those BMW engines too on the inside

[KevinC]

Originally Posted by vt100

PS: I really hope they won't destroy the look of the next gen M2. That's practically the only modern BMW car I still like.

I'd lusted after the M2 ever since its intro in 2016. Then the Competition model replaced the OG in 2018 and it caught my eye again. Late last year the itch was strong, but I had nowhere to put one, and NFW I was gonna give up either my Z4MC or my Golf R, which serves as my ideal daily driver.

Then in January my Z4MC got hit to the tune of $9800 in damage. I decided immediately to order an M2 Comp as production was due to wind up in June. Allocations were already scarce. So I ordered in early February as the Z4MC was being repaired. Finally arrived on April 30th.

I gotta tell you - the M2c is just an incredible car, something I never thought BMW would produce ever again. I'm approaching 10k miles already because I just love driving it so much. And on top of all its mechanical goodness, it's just drop-dead gorgeous. The new G-series M240i is hideous to my eye and I'm not optimistic about the next M2. Bigger, heavier, faster, uglier, blah blah blah. And Frank Stevenson, the designer of the original X5, is NOT a fan of the new 2-series design...

[3GFX]

Originally Posted by grannyknot

I'm sure someone has posted this before but I had never seen it so I thought I would put it up.

Cool find, can't stand the guy though lol

But respect for the design.