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      03-07-2011, 08:16 PM   #23
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Honestly, I can't really justify having three cars at this point from a long-term financial perspective, and the Cayman will probably need to go (most expensive to feed and care for). The Z4M is a keeper, so it stays, no questions on that!
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I'm going to take the Cayman to the track the next time and see how that goes and reserve my final decision until then. But it's going to be really hard to justify three cars when two will do. Money can go to savings and investments and--wait for it--more track days and associated expenses (R3 equipment, instruction, seat time, tires, brakes, maintenance)!
Dude. We justify it like this:
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Ahem.

Golden Gate Chapter of the BMW CCA will be hosting a 1 day school at Laguna Seca this coming weekend.

Says the crack dealer to the addict.
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Ahem.

Golden Gate Chapter of the BMW CCA will be hosting a 1 day school at Laguna Seca this coming weekend.

Says the crack dealer to the addict.
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Ahem.

Golden Gate Chapter of the BMW CCA will be hosting a 1 day school at Laguna Seca this coming weekend.

Says the crack dealer to the addict.
Can't do it this weekend Hack, but a date with some solid instruction is definitely on the agenda. We did a car control clinic with BMW CCA GGC last year--great event and we learned a lot. I'll look up some other dates with GGC--would love to run at Laguna.
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Ahem.

Golden Gate Chapter of the BMW CCA will be hosting a 1 day school at Laguna Seca this coming weekend.

Says the crack dealer to the addict.
**twitch**

I LOVE BMWCCA and am very excited to drive Laguna Seca. Not this weekend, but SOON. Yes. Soon.
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There will likely be a Thunderhill school in October/November time frame, and I believe there will be another Laguna Seca one day school in the latter half of the year.

Again, says the crack dealer to the addict.
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There will likely be a Thunderhill school in October/November time frame, and I believe there will be another Laguna Seca one day school in the latter half of the year.

Again, says the crack dealer to the addict.
Indeed! I was looking at the BMW CCA GGC schedule just last night!
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Sounds like you had a blast. Short of always needing new tires, I love autox and DE's!!

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LOL!!! It's a girlie expression of excitement. There is a certain amount of irony implied when I use it (as I'm not a girl who ever "squeeed.") I can see why you'd think it was tires though! HA!
I thought it was the sound of aftermarket brake pads. When not on track, that is what the wife's car does. People think she needs brakes, but she can brake better than any of them.

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But it's going to be really hard to justify three cars when two will do. Money can go to savings and investments and--wait for it--more track days and associated expenses (R3 equipment, instruction, seat time, tires, brakes, maintenance)!
What do you mean, three cars is nothing. Wait until the two of you have 5 and are looking for a 6th You need an E30 as the classic drivers car, an E36 M3 for autox events, the Coupe for DE's. Oh, and that's just for the wife

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Guy was jerk but she didn't off or miss the turn. And she was smart enough to come off the track too since she was pissed off about it. No sense in driving when in that state.
Impressive. When I got the point by and then a Vette sped up to not let me pass I just fumed and complained to my instructor. i probably should have come in and cooled down.
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Fin, Kitty, and/or Hack: Please lemme know next time you guys go to a local track. I'll try to make it out as well, if I'm not already signed up beforehand

March 28th and 29th @ Laguna with Trackmasters

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April 11th & April 19th @ Laguna with NCRC

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Also, just FYI, NCRC does offer instruction, but at some additional cost. I'm going to see if I can start instructing @ Laguna in return for some track time

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That is the best looking Z4M out there! It was nice to meet you three @ T-hill
Sup Chun! Finally found you on the forums. You ninja you lol
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Fin, Kitty, and/or Hack: Please lemme know next time you guys go to a local track. I'll try to make it out as well, if I'm not already signed up beforehand
We are signed up for the Solo group with NCRC at Thunderhill on Friday, April 1. And THIS time we are going up the night before so we don't have to wake up at 4:30am!
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We are signed up for the Solo group with NCRC at Thunderhill on Friday, April 1. And THIS time we are going up the night before so we don't have to wake up at 4:30am!
lol that's a very good idea hah
Hrm...April 1st might be too soon for me lol. Since I'll already have done 2 Laguna days on the 28th and 29th....maybe next time =/
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To the OP...

Why did you mention NOT to push Sport Mode?

Having brakes and throttle respond quicker is quite nice on the track.
How about DSC. I take it off after 1st or second session... or leave it on in the wet.

Glad you loved it. Glad you both have M Coupes to track...

My first track event is in May at Watkins Glen... The wait is killing me.
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^ I'm not a fan of sport mode at the track either.

Not sure what you mean by brakes & I find that H&T is tougher with a quicker gas pedal that tips in near the top.
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^ I don't use sport mode on the track either. The throttle is way too twitchy and can cause unwanted oversteer at the wrong time.

I am use to the throttle with it (sport mode) off and with the sport mode on, your shift timing has to change..
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To the OP...

Why did you mention NOT to push Sport Mode?

Having brakes and throttle respond quicker is quite nice on the track.
How about DSC. I take it off after 1st or second session... or leave it on in the wet.

Glad you loved it. Glad you both have M Coupes to track...

My first track event is in May at Watkins Glen... The wait is killing me.
'Kitty is out right now, but I can tell you (we discussed it) she's not a fan of Sport because of reasons inTgr8r and Ship mention (same with me). I don't notice any braking differences--but then again I don't run Sport since it doesn't suit my driving style.

Both coupes are off to the track this Friday along with those of a few other forum members! (4 at last count.)

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^ I'm not a fan of sport mode at the track either.

Not sure what you mean by brakes & I find that H&T is tougher with a quicker gas pedal that tips in near the top.
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^ I don't use sport mode on the track either. The throttle is way too twitchy and can cause unwanted oversteer at the wrong time.

I am use to the throttle with it (sport mode) off and with the sport mode on, your shift timing has to change..
For me, on the track, or heck, even back roads it's way to too much "on/off" for me and messes with smooth throttle inputs. Maybe it's a skill thing, maybe a style/preference thing--not sure--just know it doesn't work well for me.

Tony, you may have much better feel, precision and control over your right foot that I do!

Hey, that's why we have two modes! I say use what works for you--that's the bottom line IMO.
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At the last BMWCCA track event (three weeks ago) I put fourth the question to 10 different CCA instructors about 'sport mode'.
Every one of them said the same thing: Don't use it, too touchy....
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^i've grown so accustomed to sport mode off tt i've almost never used it. with the stock ecu, sport is too sensitive/twitchy even for spirited driving use, and i find the modulation of throttle position to be far more difficult because the range of travel's been decreased in sport mode.
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I do use it on the highway. Makes passing easier...
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Oh well... to each his/her own. I rarely use it while daily driving. Way too twitchy, I have to agree. But at the track I got accustomed to it and see a difference on accelerations and the millisecond quicker response makes going back to non-sport feel sleepy. (slight exaggeration here). At slow speeds, it doesn't help' but at higher speeds, the sport mode is good.

As for braking, correct me if I'm wrong but I notice a quicker response there also. As if the brake pads are closer to the disks so that contact is done, again, milliseconds faster.
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This is the first thread that I have heard that 'sport mode' initiates better braking.

As written in the owners manual the sport mode button does these things:

Tighter throttle control. Engine responds quicker.

Non-M
Steering enhancement.

Automatic transmission:
Sport program is activated.
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My butt swears to God that Sport mode makes the car actually pull harder

But yes, same with everyone else, I typically don't prefer using it @ the track. Only when there are 458 Italia's and GT2RS's to chase
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