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      Yesterday, 05:05 PM   #1937
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They also had m2c dynos at the beginning that were like 450whp and 600 wtorque
Car&Driver? Dynojet?

EAS M2comp Dynojet numbers were 397 whp and 437 whp.

(Edit: I am sure you are referring to Gpower dyno 439hp/607nm? Different type of dyno. By the way 600NM is 442 ft-lb.)

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I think 10% is the new norm for power loss for autos and DSG. But that's still 370/470, which certainly better explains the impressive performance.
It surely isn't lacking in torque. It is putting down M4(non-zcp) and M2comp Dynojet torque numbers.


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That video has it at 4.3 0-60 and that one dyno posted earlier has it producing much more then advertised power, more so then I recall others doing and the graph gets real hinky like an EKG above 3k rpm, very strange for a stock engine.
Maybe a ringer?
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The torque is likely high because they didn't dyno it in a 1:1 gear.
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The torque is likely high because they didn't dyno it in a 1:1 gear.
They mentioned that it was corrected for that and they did test in 1:1 and it had similar numbers but wouldn't redline because of the speed governor, so they used the corrected other ratio.
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Still waiting for all the people always complaining that cars aren't "tossable" or that they're too heavy to chime in with some kudos here. This thing might lack a MT but it definitely appears to be very nimble.

Still smh from all the people acting like any addition of BMW into a Toyota is anything but a good thing. Perhaps the Camry is more their cup of tea?
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Still waiting for all the people always complaining that cars aren't "tossable" or that they're too heavy to chime in with some kudos here. This thing might lack a MT but it definitely appears to be very nimble.

Still smh from all the people acting like any addition of BMW into a Toyota is anything but a good thing. Perhaps the Camry is more their cup of tea?
Meh, its still a pig. It's just a powerful pig. If it had advertised hp and just weighed 400 pounds less it would be a lot more impressive. It's close in size to a Cayman and weighs about 12% more.
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Meh, its still a pig. It's just a powerful pig. If it had advertised hp and just weighed 400 pounds less it would be a lot more impressive. It's close in size to a Cayman and weighs about 12% more.
How about 200 lbs less and same power? Would anyone buy that?

330hp, 3,200 lbs soaking wet, same MSRP. Same stiff chassis built in the same factory*.

Believe you me. People don't care about the weight. As long as it wears a Supra badge you'll get enough people to want to buy it for the name alone.

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Meh, its still a pig. It's just a powerful pig. If it had advertised hp and just weighed 400 pounds less it would be a lot more impressive. It's close in size to a Cayman and weighs about 12% more.
A bare bones Cayman S PDK is 3054lbs and equipped like a Supra easily over 3100lbs so its not like the Cayman is a featherweight.

Add in the Supra has a far far far better engine and is $20k cheaper than a stripper S model I'd say the Supra is doing pretty well for itself and the weight is easily forgivable.
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