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      05-12-2020, 01:13 PM   #1
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Headlights orange light anomaly

Need your help guys just in case if someone had this anomaly before me

My 2006 BMW Z4 M headlights orange light/turn signal goes on when I press brake pedal while car moving and turns off when I release brake , if I try to press brake pedal again they won't go on so only when car moving.
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Forgot to mention on how I find out about this, from reflection on the car that on the front of me

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      06-15-2020, 09:41 AM   #2
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Strange but nobody replying, I guess I own unic Z4 lol
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      06-15-2020, 11:33 AM   #3
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Sounds like a wiring problem but I don't think I quite understand what is happening based on your description.

I'll summarize though. Nothing in your headlight should be turning on or off at the same time as the braking lights. I would suggest you try to take a video of the scenario.
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Do the brake lights come on with the turn signals, or when the parking lights are turned on?
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Either a wiring problem or a really bizarre coding option. I think I saw that as an option when I was coding my car. Don't know why you would want that.
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Do the brake lights come on with the turn signals, or when the parking lights are turned on?
Its actually way around -
turn signal bulb comes on (no blinking) when apply I apply brakes and stay on until I release pedal.

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Either a wiring problem or a really bizarre coding option. I think I saw that as an option when I was coding my car. Don't know why you would want that.
I think coding but yes its bizzare In what coding software you saw that ?

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I think coding but yes its bizzare In what coding software you saw that ?
Slippery slope....INPA is what you're after. But google it.

I think this is a wiring thing, easier to check than going and buying software. Check your headlights and tail lights to see any wiring that doesn't look like it is from factory. Someone may have tried to tie in the parking lights and wired to the brake light by accident.

Good luck!
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Have you done any coding to the LSZ module?
Are you the original owner? If not, maybe the previous owner did?

Write my 2007 Z4MC stock LSZ coding to yours and see if it corrects the issue. Or at least use NCS Dummy to compare your LSZ to mine to see if any differences stand out.

E86_LSZ.C36_FSW_PSW.TRC.txt
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Have you done any coding to the LSZ module?
Are you the original owner? If not, maybe the previous owner did?

Write my 2007 Z4MC stock LSZ coding to yours and see if it corrects the issue. Or at least use NCS Dummy to compare your LSZ to mine to see if any differences stand out.

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Thanks a lot I will compare
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Its actually way around -
turn signal bulb comes on (no blinking) when apply I apply brakes and stay on until I release pedal.

Yes I understand that. I asked if the opposite were true, which could indicate a wiring issue as the cause.
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      06-17-2020, 03:20 PM   #12
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I think coding but yes its bizzare In what coding software you saw that ?
I believe I saw it on my Carly app. But it would be annoying to spend 200 bucks just to uncode one thing. If it does even work. So I would ask around someone near you.
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I believe I saw it on my Carly app. But it would be annoying to spend 200 bucks just to uncode one thing. If it does even work. So I would ask around someone near you.
Carly can't do anything NCSexpert can't do, so I wouldn't waste money on Carly, which BTW, charges you every year for the privilege to continue to use "their" software.

Comparing the stock LSZ I provided with the bizarre behaving one in this post will determine if the problem is in the coding or not.
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Carly can't do anything NCSexpert can't do, so I wouldn't waste money on Carly, which BTW, charges you every year for the privilege to continue to use "their" software.

Comparing the stock LSZ I provided with the bizarre behaving one in this post will determine if the problem is in the coding or not.
Was this ever resolved? Curious as think we have the same or similar after adding the BFD to our coupe.
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That behavior would be more wiring related than coding. Unless someone really tried mapping pins. Like mentioned above, code it back to stock as that is easy and quick to rule out any coding issues. I have coded my car to US spec to turn xenons as DRLs. I cam give you mine for reference too.
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Thanks to all of you, anomaly was coding of the emergency stop lights to the front headlights, I guess it was done by previous owner.
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Glad you figured it out.....very weird. Wonder if they did that as poor joke?

Odd.
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Glad you figured it out.....very weird. Wonder if they did that as poor joke?

Odd.
yeah very strange that car allowed to do that to the front lights to begin with
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funny enough my Z started doing this after I was playing around with Carly. I will look to see if I can anybody nearby that can recode my stuff for me before I start playing with it again lol. Though I could've swore I tried resetting it back to my first save so I'm wondering if I've boogered it up too much. Additionally now when my headlights are on I cannot for the life of me get the very side part of the hockey puck orange lights to cut on. Bulb further to the outside of the headlight.. I've tried new bulbs I swear I've tried coding and recoding it a thousand times and cannot figure it out but seeing this about the braking causing the front bulbs to cut on gives me some more hope again.. I say I wont touch carly again but I'll probably end up doing it tomorrow LOL. I miss the full hockey pucks so bad..
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funny enough my Z started doing this after I was playing around with Carly. I will look to see if I can anybody nearby that can recode my stuff for me before I start playing with it again lol. Though I could've swore I tried resetting it back to my first save so I'm wondering if I've boogered it up too much. Additionally now when my headlights are on I cannot for the life of me get the very side part of the hockey puck orange lights to cut on. Bulb further to the outside of the headlight.. I've tried new bulbs I swear I've tried coding and recoding it a thousand times and cannot figure it out but seeing this about the braking causing the front bulbs to cut on gives me some more hope again.. I say I wont touch carly again but I'll probably end up doing it tomorrow LOL. I miss the full hockey pucks so bad..
Use NCSexpert to save your LSZ coding, then use NCS Dummy to compare your LSZ file to the file in post #9 to see what's different.
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