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      12-08-2019, 10:42 AM   #1
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Is this remote controlled Z8 toy worth $50?

The listing says Z4 but it’s incorrect. Does it look like its worth 50? The box is all banged up.

https://newyork.craigslist.org/wch/t...014990233.html
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      12-08-2019, 10:49 AM   #2
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I dunno about you, but that's the only way I'd get my hands on a Z8
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      12-08-2019, 11:10 AM   #3
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do you mean as a collectible or as a toy?
if a toy, then it's worth what ever the high bidder is willing to pay.
as a collectible die cast, absolutely not worth that much. RC's in general are not seen as collectible because of (typically) poor attention to detail, low quality of small usually plastic parts and only loose acquaintance with whatever the claimed scale might be.
there are likely exceptions, true in some RC aircraft for example, but I'd not consider this item sight unseen.
on the upside: it's 1/12 scale so would make a fairly hefty toy.
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My experience with cheap remote control toys is that the batteries last about 5 recharge cycles and cost more to replace than the toy cost to begin with.
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as collectible.. it is in pretty bad condition
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A few months ago I saw a super clean Z8 in a parking lot, had 3 work friends with me and when I saw the owner I said "Hey, I really like your Z8." The guy looks at me and says "That's not a Z8, its an Alpina". I was stunned.
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Offer $35?
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A few months ago I saw a super clean Z8 in a parking lot, had 3 work friends with me and when I saw the owner I said "Hey, I really like your Z8." The guy looks at me and says "That's not a Z8, its an Alpina". I was stunned.
Did you offer condolences? "Sorry about you losing the manual, must have been rough."
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Did you offer condolences? "Sorry about you losing the manual, must have been rough."
Isn’t the Alpina slightly less powered too?
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Isn’t the Alpina slightly less powered too?
Yes. Alpina made the Z8 more of a grand tourer instead of an e39 M5 coupe. Alpina used the M62(4.4l 540i/740i) engine and enlarged it to 4.8l from their B10S that was in production at that time. Alpina also ditched the manual for the 5speed ZF autobox. The Alpina model Z8 had less Hp but far more torque and lower down the rev range. I believe the gearing was also shorter for better acceleration at the cost of top end speed.


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Alpina 2dr Convertible 2003 BMW Z8 Specs
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Horsepower 375 hp @5,800 rpm's
Torque 383 lb-ft. @3,800 rpm's


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With production of the Z8 completed by November 2002, the Z8 was replaced by the Alpina Roadster V8 in 2003.[9] The Alpina was a departure from the hard-edged sporting focus of the original car, and elements of grand touring intent were evident throughout this final iteration. Instead of the original 6-speed manual and 4.9 L (S62) engine featured in original Z8, the Alpina came only with an automatic transmission, utilising a 5-speed BMW Steptronic transmission mated to a 4.8 L Alpina-tuned BMW M62 V8 engine from the Alpina E39 B10 V8 S. In order to complete the car's transition from a sports car to a refined grand tourer, a softer suspension setting was used. The standard Z8's run-flat tyres on 18 in (46 cm) wheels were discarded in favor of conventional tyres with softer sidewalls mounted on 20 in (51 cm) Alpina wheels.[10] A new softer grade of Nappa leather replaced the Z8's less supple specification, and special Alpina gauges were fitted on the dash board cluster. An Alpina steering wheel with three solid spokes replaced the original, which could not be retrofitted with shift paddles for the automatic transmission. Gear selection was displayed in an Alpina-specific display mounted in front of the steering wheel.

Performance and power output of the Alpina roadster V8 differed from that of the standard car in that the peak power was reduced to 280 kW (381 PS; 375 hp), while peak torque was raised to 383 lb⋅ft (519 N⋅m); this torque was available at significantly lower rpm than the original in order to enable more relaxed cruising.[11] Curiously, the electronically limited top speed was officially raised to 259 km/h (161 mph).[9]

Production of the Roadster V8 amounted to 555 units, 450 of which were exported to the U.S. market and only eight to the UK.[12] In the United States, this special edition of the Z8 was sold directly through BMW dealerships, marking a first for Alpina, whose cars had never been sold through retail channels in the U.S.

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