When will Max win his first championship?

[Autobacs]

Yup. Kinda not expecting Perez not making it out of Q2, even with the medium tire.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

Great job by Max!!

Now let's see the race results!

Of course my good friend . Yeah , let's see what the race brings to us ...
Hopefully a close fight in the front from "MAX vs HAM"
If the car is competitive , so is MAX as well !
But I'm pretty sure , the tire management will be crucial in this race !

• May the best driver win this race...

Thank you !

[SenorFunkyPants]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

They wouldn't let Ferrari cheat. I highly doubt the FIA would look the other way for hon-dah or Red Bull$hit.

Guessing you haven't been on this sub-forum long?

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by SenorFunkyPants

Guessing you haven't been on this sub-forum long?

Bullshit, I know F1

[SenorFunkyPants]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Bullshit, I know F1

Not saying you don't.
Rather that I would have thought you would have realised that all the talk of Red Bull/Honda cheating on this forum is just push back.
The two most outspoken Verstappen supporters here have created a narrative where the Mercedes performance advantage is solely down to cheating.
This narrative is repeated endlessly, several times a day, week after week, month after month.
Rather than just support Verstappen they strive to undermine other teams and drivers.
Its a sad pathetic strategy to attack other teams/drivers in order to try and raise the standing of their driver...heedless that supporters of those teams/drivers have an equal passion.
No wonder this sub forum has so little traffic...F1 supporters don't stay long when they realise 90% of the posts are from two unpleasant Verstappen acolytes who constantly lie and attack other drivers and teams.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by SenorFunkyPants

Not saying you don't.
Rather that I would have thought you would have realised that all the talk of Red Bull/Honda cheating on this forum is just push back.
The two most outspoken Verstappen supporters here have created a narrative where the Mercedes performance advantage is solely down to cheating.
This narrative is repeated endlessly, several times a day, week after week, month after month.
Rather than just support Verstappen they strive to undermine other teams and drivers.
Its a sad pathetic strategy to attack other teams/drivers in order to try and raise the standing of their driver...heedless that supporters of those teams/drivers have an equal passion.
No wonder this sub forum has so little traffic...F1 supporters don't stay long when they realise 90% of the posts are from two unpleasant Verstappen acolytes who constantly lie and attack other drivers and teams.

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by SenorFunkyPants

Not saying you don't.
Rather that I would have thought you would have realised that all the talk of Red Bull/Honda cheating on this forum is just push back.
The two most outspoken Verstappen supporters here have created a narrative where the Mercedes performance advantage is solely down to cheating.
This narrative is repeated endlessly, several times a day, week after week, month after month.
Rather than just support Verstappen they strive to undermine other teams and drivers.
Its a sad pathetic strategy to attack other teams/drivers in order to try and raise the standing of their driver...heedless that supporters of those teams/drivers have an equal passion.
No wonder this sub forum has so little traffic...F1 supporters don't stay long when they realise 90% of the posts are from two unpleasant Verstappen acolytes who constantly lie and attack other drivers and teams.

ic...I was a few beers in and misunderstood your statement. I like this sub-forum but don't visit much for several reasons. RB fanboys don't run me off and I don't believe MB has been cheating. They got the engine right and all others got it wrong. Some teams got it VERY wrong and regulations wouldn't permit enough change to catch up. Most people forget MB wasn't shit until the new hybrid era. Plus HAM is the luckiest MF I've ever seen!!!

I'll be in here more now that the season is about ready to start. I don't have many people to talk F1 with here in the states where mental midgets are only into NASCAR

Plus it would help this sub-forum if BMW was still in F1.

[e90335e36m3]

That's really impressive growth in talent over the course of a year, nothing to do with technology.

[npe]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Of course my good friend . Yeah , let's see what the race brings to us ...
Hopefully a close fight in the front from "MAX vs HAM"
If the car is competitive , so is MAX as well !
But I'm pretty sure , the tire management will be crucial in this race !

• May the best driver win this race...

Thank you !

May the best driver win this race...

You said it yourself

Thank you!

[Ngilbe36]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

Great job by Max!!

Now let's see the race results!

Looks like we have to wait a bit longer...

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

ic...I was a few beers in and misunderstood your statement. I like this sub-forum but don't visit much for several reasons. RB fanboys don't run me off and I don't believe MB has been cheating. They got the engine right and all others got it wrong. Some teams got it VERY wrong and regulations wouldn't permit enough change to catch up. Most people forget MB wasn't shit until the new hybrid era. Plus HAM is the luckiest MF I've ever seen!!!

I'll be in here more now that the season is about ready to start. I don't have many people to talk F1 with here in the states where mental midgets are only into NASCAR

Plus it would help this sub-forum if BMW was still in F1.

Mercedes Benz WCC Position in 2012: 5th. Drivers MSC and ROS
Mercedes Benz WCC Position in 2013: 2nd. Drivers HAM and ROS

McLaren WCC Position in 2012: 3rd. Drivers HAM and BUT
McLaren WCC Position in 2013: 5th. Drivers BUT and PER
Special note: McLaren hasn't won a race since HAM left.
Special note 2: Pls don't say anything about the Mercedes PU for 2014 as McLaren had it and managed to finish behind Williams in a dismal 5th place.

This isn't luck. HAM is a game changer. As you saw yesterday and in Turkey. The GOAT.

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

Special note: McLaren hasn't won a race since HAM left.

He's not the GOAT!!! Staying at McLaren would have equaled no more championships for scHAM.

It's the car. He either got lucky or had insider info moving to MB.

The Hybrid era introduced too many variables into the equation to name anyone the GOAT.

He got lucky last Sunday with RB screwing up at every turn. They will regret that as I think MB will get their shit together real quick. My prediction for the world championship this year:

1. HAM
2. VER
3. BOT

Ferrari

I just wish they would go back to tire wars and screaming V-10s.

Thats my

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

He's not the GOAT!!! Staying at McLaren would have equaled no more championships for scHAM.


Thats my

Mate . Let me help you..

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

He's not the GOAT!!! Staying at McLaren would have equaled no more championships for scHAM.

It's the car. He either got lucky or had insider info moving to MB.

The Hybrid era introduced too many variables into the equation to name anyone the GOAT.

He got lucky last Sunday with RB screwing up at every turn. They will regret that as I think MB will get their shit together real quick. My prediction for the world championship this year:

1. HAM
2. VER
3. BOT

Ferrari

I just wish they would go back to tire wars and screaming V-10s.

Thats my

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Mate . Let me help you..

You guys are hilarious. And clearly know almost nothing about Formula One.

"Lewis wins the races he is supposed to win AND the races he isn't supposed to win."

Ross Brown. Fernando Alonso. Sebastian Vettel.

Total Drivers and Constructors championships between them is 16. I'm guessing they know more than both of you put together and multiplied by 100,000.

Lewis made McLaren look good. Without him they wouldn't have done anything from 2008 to 2012. Once he left they fell into a morass from which they are just emerging. After almost a decade.

Mercedes: 1 race win in the MSC, ROS era and those geniuses helped them develop a car that was severely real limited. It had one-lap speed but went backwards in the races. Highest WCC finish prior to HAM...5th. First year of HAM - 2nd.

Back to McLaren...they had the Mercedes power plant in 2014 and STILL managed to finish near the bottom of the midfield.

I will leave you with a quote from Paddy Lowe who has engineered several of the best race cars ever to hit the track and has worked with people like, you know, Aryton Senna, Mika Hakkanen, David Coulthard, Kimi Raikkonen, Nico Rosberg, Jenson Button, etc.

"When we get the car back from Lewis in testing, we know that every bit of performance has been extracted from the car. I can't say that for any other driver."

You guys are pretty ridiculous.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

You guys are hilarious. And clearly know almost nothing about Formula One.

"Lewis wins the races he is supposed to win AND the races he isn't supposed to win."

Ross Brown. Fernando Alonso. Sebastian Vettel.

Total Drivers and Constructors championships between them is 16. I'm guessing they know more than both of you put together and multiplied by 100,000.

Lewis made McLaren look good. Without him they wouldn't have done anything from 2008 to 2012. Once he left they fell into a morass from which they are just emerging. After almost a decade.

Mercedes: 1 race win in the MSC, ROS era and those geniuses helped them develop a car that was severely real limited. It had one-lap speed but went backwards in the races. Highest WCC finish prior to HAM...5th. First year of HAM - 2nd.

Back to McLaren...they had the Mercedes power plant in 2014 and STILL managed to finish near the bottom of the midfield.

I will leave you with a quote from Paddy Lowe who has engineered several of the best race cars ever to hit the track and has worked with people like, you know, Aryton Senna, Mika Hakkanen, David Coulthard, Kimi Raikkonen, Nico Rosberg, Jenson Button, etc.

"When we get the car back from Lewis in testing, we know that every bit of performance has been extracted from the car. I can't say that for any other driver."

You guys are pretty ridiculous.

Well my good friend . Actually I didn't said anything !

HAM-7Lewis said it by himself :

Hamilton: "I’d still be a "one-time champion" if I’d stayed at McLaren"

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

You guys are hilarious. And clearly know almost nothing about Formula One.

"Lewis wins the races he is supposed to win AND the races he isn't supposed to win."

Ross Brown. Fernando Alonso. Sebastian Vettel.

Total Drivers and Constructors championships between them is 16. I'm guessing they know more than both of you put together and multiplied by 100,000.

Lewis made McLaren look good. Without him they wouldn't have done anything from 2008 to 2012. Once he left they fell into a morass from which they are just emerging. After almost a decade.

Mercedes: 1 race win in the MSC, ROS era and those geniuses helped them develop a car that was severely real limited. It had one-lap speed but went backwards in the races. Highest WCC finish prior to HAM...5th. First year of HAM - 2nd.

Back to McLaren...they had the Mercedes power plant in 2014 and STILL managed to finish near the bottom of the midfield.

I will leave you with a quote from Paddy Lowe who has engineered several of the best race cars ever to hit the track and has worked with people like, you know, Aryton Senna, Mika Hakkanen, David Coulthard, Kimi Raikkonen, Nico Rosberg, Jenson Button, etc.

"When we get the car back from Lewis in testing, we know that every bit of performance has been extracted from the car. I can't say that for any other driver."

You guys are pretty ridiculous.

If cherry picking data and statements helps with your man crush on scHAM have at it. It doesn't prove your point. It's the car coupled with luck, worthless teammates and stupid regulations that prevented Ferrari or RB from competing!

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

HAM-7Lewis said it by himself :

Hamilton: "I’d still be a "one-time champion" if I’d stayed at McLaren"

No switch to MB and scHAM or "One Time" got no case!!!

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

If cherry picking data and statements helps with your man crush on scHAM have at it. It doesn't prove your point. It's the car coupled with luck, worthless teammates and stupid regulations that prevented Ferrari or RB from competing!

Again, you're hilarious. The 2009 F1 season isn't cherry picking data. It's a WHOLE RACING SEASON. If you know anything about data, it provides enough to draw conclusions on the skill level of Sir Lewis.

If not, carry on!!

Cheers-mk

P.S. It may just be easier to admit you hate the guy and move on from there.

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

P.S. It may just be easier to admit you hate the guy and move on from there.

I didn't know it was a secret? I don't hate anyone but scHAM is my least favorite driver. In addition MB is my least favorite team because I'm a BMW guy.
I don't hide my bias. I have one team Ferrari with HAAS as a sentimental favorite because their US based operation is 20 minutes from my home. Plus, I never said the dude can't drive he just isn't the GOAT.

To summarize:

2007 HAM crushed buy the "Peoples Champ" Kimi
2008 HAM gets lucky as a few minutes of rain costs MASSA Championship, BFD
VET era begins because? "It's the car"
HAM gets insider info & moves to MB
HAM Bone dry thru 2013 including 1 year with MB

Hybrid Era Begins

2014 "It's the Car"
2015 "It's the Car"
2016 beaten by worthless NICO
2017 "It's the Car"
2018 "It's the Car"
2019 "It's the Car"
2020 "It's the Car"


1 lucky non-hybrid Championship
6 "It's the car" Championships with inferior teammates

P.S. You see how fast MB ran Norris out of town? I seem to remember Norris winning the race and crushing BOT before scHAM's car just happened to breakdown. MB couldn't have Norris prove it's "The Car" after all!!!

[243Racing]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

If cherry picking data and statements helps with your man crush on scHAM have at it. It doesn't prove your point. It's the car coupled with luck, worthless teammates and stupid regulations that prevented Ferrari or RB from competing!

Ferrari prevented Ferrari from competing, for what it's worth. Following them through SV's time let me know what it's like to be a Cleveland Browns fan... a team that can't get out of their own way no matter how much talent they have.

Originally Posted by MKSixer

P.S. It may just be easier to admit you hate the guy and move on from there.

I can acknowledge that Lewis is one of the top drivers in F1 history and separate from the fact that I absolutely cannot stand his public persona, especially with the events of the last year.

I originally typed that I cannot stand "him" , but the reality is I don't know the man personally so I can't rule out the possibility that he's absolutely delightful when there isn't a camera in front of him.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

I didn't know it was a secret? I don't hate anyone but scHAM is my least favorite driver. In addition MB is my least favorite team because I'm a BMW guy.
I don't hide my bias. I have one team Ferrari with HAAS as a sentimental favorite because their US based operation is 20 minutes from my home. Plus, I never said the dude can't drive he just isn't the GOAT.

To summarize:

2007 HAM crushed buy the "Peoples Champ" Kimi
2008 HAM gets lucky as a few minutes of rain costs MASSA Championship, BFD
VET era begins because? "It's the car"
HAM gets insider info & moves to MB
HAM Bone dry thru 2013 including 1 year with MB

Hybrid Era Begins

2014 "It's the Car"
2015 "It's the Car"
2016 beaten by worthless NICO
2017 "It's the Car"
2018 "It's the Car"
2019 "It's the Car"
2020 "It's the Car"


1 lucky non-hybrid Championship
6 "It's the car" Championships with inferior teammates

P.S. You see how fast MB ran Norris out of town? I seem to remember Norris winning the race and crushing BOT before scHAM's car just happened to breakdown. MB couldn't have Norris prove it's "The Car" after all!!!

You kind of sound like the NASCAR fans you are picking on.

[Ngilbe36]

Originally Posted by BeastieBombRacing

F
I can acknowledge that Lewis is one of the top drivers in F1 history and separate from the fact that I absolutely cannot stand his public persona, especially with the events of the last year.

I originally typed that I cannot stand "him" , but the reality is I don't know the man personally so I can't rule out the possibility that he's absolutely delightful when there isn't a camera in front of him.

I alternatively began to like Lewis more last year as he was trying to use his fame and platform to bring issues to light and make people have the conversations that are uncomfortable. Seems like a much better persona then the playboy drunks of old.