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      03-07-2016, 11:29 AM   #23
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Wait, so in 100 years cars will be autonomous... So basically what they're doing now? And still using the chassis from current BMWs? Not a bunch of innovation happening in the next 100 years at BMW.

So disappointing...
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The color reminded me of this for some reason....look I know it's a stretch lol

Just lose the top, add 3 jets, add 1 Jedi
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Compare this BMW abomination with what Mercedes Benz presented: https://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/futur...ew_F015_Luxury

I thought BMW was interested in design. You wouldn't know that by this waste-of-space exercise.
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They teased an i8 front end a few days ago, where is an i8 with an s63tu mounted north-south and no rear seats, or an i8 with a B48 turned up to decent levels of power. That would be more interesting!
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Guys, it's a concept, it's showing some pieces of certain design elements that's coming soon, like the kidneys.
And it's an idea how one (BMW) see the car in the future, but by that time, i'm sure there is nobody that's actually driving their car themselves.
Hence the steering wheel, which is a mere gimmick.
The 100'th anniversary are just starting, should be interesting imo.
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Yeah yeah yeah, show us the 100-year //M hot-rod already
U sure you want to see it? Cause it will be a fwd electric self driven M! At least "your"donuts and sideways turns will be perfect everytime
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      03-07-2016, 11:59 AM   #29
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Meh. I wont be here for sure when this thing comes out anyway. A pointless exercise to be honest. In any case I myself am looking to the previous 100 years than the future for bmw. Most new cars are huge boring pieces of metal (exception to the I3 I hope to buy next summer) and my last 3 "new" bmw's have been a 1972 E9 csi coup in 2011, a z4m coup in 2015 and an E46 M3 CSL this year.
how is it pointless? go away troll.
Well lets see: first you wont see this car in yourlifetime (so pointless); second by the time this car is on the market all of this tech and conceptual ideas will have been surpassed (therefore pointless); third since this here wont influence any of the current, next or future generations i think again it makes it, well, you guessed it POINTLESS
I think you just made a "trump" out of yourself with your comment. Perhaps next you will sugest a wall and I should pay for it aswell??
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Wow this is strange but kinda cool.....wish their engineers would spend time perfecting a HPFP, coils and injectors that didn't fail!!! Maybe a water pump or 2 here or there that lasts??
Do you really think that BMW makes fuel pumps, injectors , ignition coils or water
Pumps ? Oh dear.

Let me see what they did back in the 80s.

Water pump - made by LASO
Injectors - BOSCH
ignition coils - perhaps BMW made plug wires
Fuel pump - BOSCH

Pretty sure that in the 2010s they still sublet the manufacturing of these parts. ...

It always sucks for companies like BMW when a part provider screws up a part - the parent company gets blamed for years by Joe Schmo on the Internet
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Meh. I wont be here for sure when this thing comes out anyway. A pointless exercise to be honest. In any case I myself am looking to the previous 100 years than the future for bmw. Most new cars are huge boring pieces of metal (exception to the I3 I hope to buy next summer) and my last 3 "new" bmw's have been a 1972 E9 csi coup in 2011, a z4m coup in 2015 and an E46 M3 CSL this year.
how is it pointless? go away troll.
Well lets see: first you wont see this car in yourlifetime (so pointless); second by the time this car is on the market all of this tech and conceptual ideas will have been surpassed (therefore pointless); third since this here wont influence any of the current, next or future generations i think again it makes it, well, you guessed it POINTLESS
I think you just made a "trump" out of yourself with your comment. Perhaps next you will sugest a wall and I should pay for it aswell??
If you've bought all the cars you will buy and are only going to slam things from The current day or future as " Pointless " then yes- the shoe fits...you are behaving like a troll .
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Wow this is strange but kinda cool.....wish their engineers would spend time perfecting a HPFP, coils and injectors that didn't fail!!! Maybe a water pump or 2 here or there that lasts??
I'm not exactly sure if you know what BMW does and what they outsource...

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      03-07-2016, 01:28 PM   #34
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I am not sure how hard they worked on the design because it appears to me they mailed it in.....
Come on... Try to be original.

http://jalopnik.com/bmws-vision-next...-ce-1763259398
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They teased an i8 front end a few days ago, where is an i8 with an s63tu mounted north-south and no rear seats, or an i8 with a B48 turned up to decent levels of power. That would be more interesting!
Hahahah I wondered when someone would mention comparing/putting the V8 in it
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      03-07-2016, 01:50 PM   #36
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Do you really think that BMW makes fuel pumps, injectors , ignition coils or water
Pumps ? Oh dear.

Let me see what they did back in the 80s.

Water pump - made by LASO
Injectors - BOSCH
ignition coils - perhaps BMW made plug wires
Fuel pump - BOSCH

Pretty sure that in the 2010s they still sublet the manufacturing of these parts. ...

It always sucks for companies like BMW when a part provider screws up a part - the parent company gets blamed for years by Joe Schmo on the Internet
Agreed that they don't make the parts themselves, but they (BMW) are still ultimately responsible for the higher-level product they're selling. Similarly, if people at Burger King got sick from burgers, it wouldn't be reasonable for them to blame their suppliers and take no responsibility.

Also, as somebody who works in a company that uses many custom, vendor-supplied parts, sometimes issues arise that were our fault. Bad design, bad material choice, etc. Not always, but it happens... I'm sure it's the same story at BMW or any company.
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Do you really think that BMW makes fuel pumps, injectors , ignition coils or water
Pumps ? Oh dear.

Let me see what they did back in the 80s.

Water pump - made by LASO
Injectors - BOSCH
ignition coils - perhaps BMW made plug wires
Fuel pump - BOSCH

Pretty sure that in the 2010s they still sublet the manufacturing of these parts. ...

It always sucks for companies like BMW when a part provider screws up a part - the parent company gets blamed for years by Joe Schmo on the Internet
Agreed that they don't make the parts themselves, but they (BMW) are still ultimately responsible for the higher-level product they're selling. Similarly, if people at Burger King got sick from burgers, it wouldn't be reasonable for them to blame their suppliers and take no responsibility.

Also, as somebody who works in a company that uses many custom, vendor-supplied parts, sometimes issues arise that were our fault. Bad design, bad material choice, etc. Not always, but it happens... I'm sure it's the same story at BMW or any company.
Agree with all.

The over arching point is that these issues are temporary issues, whether they be a design issue, or a supplier issue.

Absolutely the parent Corp typically has to accept responsibility in these situations and take on the issue and resolve complaints and make it right as much as possum and then if needed settle with their vendors on the back Side.

the Hpfp injector issue was mostly on the last generation e82 and e90 models and yet some still cling to/complain about issues that are likely long resolved or out of production.

This is the part I am saying is unfair.
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Meh. I wont be here for sure when this thing comes out anyway. A pointless exercise to be honest. In any case I myself am looking to the previous 100 years than the future for bmw. Most new cars are huge boring pieces of metal (exception to the I3 I hope to buy next summer) and my last 3 "new" bmw's have been a 1972 E9 csi coup in 2011, a z4m coup in 2015 and an E46 M3 CSL this year.
how is it pointless? go away troll.
Well lets see: first you wont see this car in yourlifetime (so pointless); second by the time this car is on the market all of this tech and conceptual ideas will have been surpassed (therefore pointless); third since this here wont influence any of the current, next or future generations i think again it makes it, well, you guessed it POINTLESS
I think you just made a "trump" out of yourself with your comment. Perhaps next you will sugest a wall and I should pay for it aswell??
If you've bought all the cars you will buy and are only going to slam things from The current day or future as " Pointless " then yes- the shoe fits...you are behaving like a troll .
I Hope to get an i3 next summer so still interested in the brand and always will be. The reason I am critical its because I am still interested in future bmw's. I traded my x3 for a macan but still prefer the size of the x3. If bmw do a nice job on next x3 I might just trade my macan for another x3. Since we know "bmw" has eyes and "ears" in these forums the more we "trol" the more we get in our future cars. Heck I am still waiting a thank you from x3/x4 owners for the gloss inserts on the air vents and new 7 ser owners for the gloss insert on the electric seats to name a few after "trolling" so much about these issues in here. Coincidence? I dont think so.
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Interesting nonetheless...
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Am I the only one that hates the new buck teeth kidney grills they seem to keep slapping on concept cars? I really hope that's not the direction they end up going in...
You can count on it. You can already see a resemblance in the G11, and I'm sure it will continue when we see the final G01 design.
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I didn't watch all the videos yet, the only video I watched is this:

https://www.facebook.com/MercedesBen...4001739121670/

Which of course I don't agree with
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Thats all they are doing for their 100th anniversary? An awkwardly styled concept car? What let down...
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so cool how the skin of the car moves
The CS Concept called, it wants it's technology back.
That was GINA, not CS.
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Wow this is strange but kinda cool.....wish their engineers would spend time perfecting a HPFP, coils and injectors that didn't fail!!! Maybe a water pump or 2 here or there that lasts??
Do you really think that BMW makes fuel pumps, injectors , ignition coils or water
Pumps ? Oh dear.

Let me see what they did back in the 80s.

Water pump - made by LASO
Injectors - BOSCH
ignition coils - perhaps BMW made plug wires
Fuel pump - BOSCH

Pretty sure that in the 2010s they still sublet the manufacturing of these parts. ...

It always sucks for companies like BMW when a part provider screws up a part - the parent company gets blamed for years by Joe Schmo on the Internet
I don't care who makes what for BMW, you buy a BMW for the brand, they need to have their stuff in check before letting garbage parts end up in mass produced cars.

Have you ever been stranded on a crazy interstate highway from a failed hpfp? Have you ever had your pregnant wife coast a 335 to the shoulder through traffic after it died on a route 95 during rush hour traffic? Have have you had your water pump fail at 17k miles 230 miles from home and have to pay out of pocket for hotel and accommodations? Maybe, maybe not, but I have and it sucks but I love these cars.

I've owned 3 e9x 335's, and every iteration of M3 from e36 on (except f8x) over the past 16 years. I don't consider myself a joe-shmo internet bum, I'm a life-long BMW customer and those issues bother the hell out of me. Believe me hpfp issues (along with coil pack issues and injectors) are alive and well in the f platform too, read up on it.

Meanwhile they're working on stuff like this, laser headlights and entertainment apps for the car. Smh
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