Are values taking off for low mileage z4m’s

[Jsinghzzzz]

Originally Posted by KevinC

We really need to get Doug DeMuro to review one - dude gets like half a million views in 24 hours. Can you imagine the heightened interest he would create?

I wonder what 'quirks and features' he'll find 😂

[W///]

Originally Posted by KevinC

We really need to get Doug DeMuro to review one - dude gets like half a million views in 24 hours. Can you imagine the heightened interest he would create?

I don't think he'd say anything that people don't already know. Rare car, very analogue, legendary S54 paired to 6MT only.

It's got air conditioning, automatic windows, a soft top that closes in 10s in the Roadster and a glovebox. And cool turn signals. That's about it

[racerbruce]

Originally Posted by garz747

Nice floor mats dude!

Agreed - awesome mats!

i purcahsed CoCo mats in a red/black color for my Imola Red / Black Leather Z4MR recently....the fitment and quality are unparalleled:

https://www.cocomats.com/bmwgallery/

[KevinC]

I had old nasty cocomats in my '69 Beetle when I was in high school in the '70's. They were a "thing" for German cars back then. But they shed like a giant shaggy dog and weren't of very good quality.

Today's cocomats (at least the ones from cocomats.com - beware of cheap competitors!) are of absolutely superb quality. I've had them in about a half dozen cars over the last 15 years or so. First purchase I always make after buying something new. HIGHLY recommended!

[ShawnPaul]

Some low mileage examples went up for sale near me last year and as near as I could figure, they all sold within a day or two of listing. I think the market is coming around and you can't buy a new car as fun as these. That's the key; that it's more fun than a new m2 for example.

[ShawnPaul]

Originally Posted by garz747

No Nav! Carbon dash!

Ya, I agree. My is no nav and Carbon dash too. (Red seats though). Looks so clean. That was a must for me when I bough this.

[JimBob0047]

What I don't get is no mention of Roadster value. Once all the coupes and non nav are gone or too expensive I believe the roadsters with nav will appreciate too. Not as much as the coupe of course but it will go up. Nothing like top down on this chassis. 😁

Also +1 on coco mats. Fit, form and quality are unparalleled!

[ShawnPaul]

Originally Posted by JimBob0047

What I don't get is no mention of Roadster value. Once all the coupes and non nav are gone or too expensive I believe the roadsters with nav will appreciate too. Not as much as the coupe of course but it will go up. Nothing like top down on this chassis. 😁

Also +1 on coco mats. Fit, form and quality are unparalleled!

The roadsters are great cars and with a top down and cheaper price they are such a steal right now. The coupe just has a whole different presence though. I get people taking pictures of my car at stop lights all the time and I draw a lot of attention at car shows everywhere. The roadster just didn't have the look for that sort of attention. In general I just prefer coupes and the stiffer chassis.

[Lucky1]

Originally Posted by ShawnPaul

Some low mileage examples went up for sale near me last year and as near as I could figure, they all sold within a day or two of listing. I think the market is coming around and you can't buy a new car as fun as these. That's the key; that it's more fun than a new m2 for example.

100%. Drove both M2's and M4's and they mostly lack the raw edge these cars have. They have their own sporty personalities for sure but they're built for a different experience. Since I own a Z4M Roadie I have no reason to consider other M cars other than I can't or don't drive it in the winter and can't haul more than one passenger.

[zimmer]

I have Nav and dont mind it at all. I can't see paying 4000 more for a non nav. I think thats rediculous!

[KevinM]

I never will buy or own cars for investment purposes. I'll drive them when I want and how I want. That said, almost any M produced through 2008 (and probably the manual version of the E6X Ms) will appreciate if it is in good/excellent condition. Of particular importance are manual only (1M also fits this of course), normally aspirated, hydraulic steering, lack of various selections for steering, suspension, etc.

So, my E39 M5 and Z4M coupe will be with me for the long term, possibly passed on to my children. The third slot in the garage (the SUV/dog hauler has to sit outside) will be in rotation; the F80 M3 will soon be replaced by a 2020 M2C. These newer Ms have their charms, but are definitely different.

[W///]

Originally Posted by JimBob0047

What I don't get is no mention of Roadster value. Once all the coupes and non nav are gone or too expensive I believe the roadsters with nav will appreciate too. Not as much as the coupe of course but it will go up. Nothing like top down on this chassis. 😁

Also +1 on coco mats. Fit, form and quality are unparalleled!

Agreed, the top down experience adds something that the M Coupe cannot bring to the table. Plus I think with the top down, I think it absolutely looks amazing. In my particular case, the Imola Red interior really makes the whole car pop.

With regards to value, I think it's by far the best kept secret in the M car market. The M Coupe has already sailed, a clean, low mileage example is $30k+ No doubt it'll keep going towards 40k easily. But the Roadsters are in the 20s all day. That's a bargain for this car.

I was also talking to my friend about this. Besides the Z8 and 507, is there anyone that would argue there's a better BMW Roadster out there than the Z4M? I know that's a bold statement because BMW has a pretty great history.

Originally Posted by KevinM

I never will buy or own cars for investment purposes. I'll drive them when I want and how I want. That said, almost any M produced through 2008 (and probably the manual version of the E6X Ms) will appreciate if it is in good/excellent condition. Of particular importance are manual only (1M also fits this of course), normally aspirated, hydraulic steering, lack of various selections for steering, suspension, etc.

So, my E39 M5 and Z4M coupe will be with me for the long term, possibly passed on to my children. The third slot in the garage (the SUV/dog hauler has to sit outside) will be in rotation; the F80 M3 will soon be replaced by a 2020 M2C. These newer Ms have their charms, but are definitely different.

I couldn't agree more. If anything, all my cars are drivers due to the fact that they have miles on them. I have no plans to ever sell any of my M's (all MT), but it's good to know the values will only go up.

[David70]

I bought my Z4M coupe 7 years ago for $30,500 with 31k miles on it. It has possibly gone up in value (now with about 38k miles) but if you are looking at it as an investment it would be a horrible choice. Add maintenance, insurance, repair (although virtually nothing in 7 years for repair) and all the other easier ways to make money long term and you should only buy one if you like it. A decent investment making 7% would roughly double in 10 years, not sure there are any reasonably priced cars you can buy today and expect them to be decent investments. Even some of the best high dollar "investment" cars look pretty poor when you run the numbers.

Buy a car you want to own and go from there. I didn't want navigation so I looked for a car without it. I don't hate it and if the right car came along I would have purchased it. Maybe EAG see's a $4k difference in nav vs. non nav but they are also mostly dealing with cars at the very top of the values, if I was spending top dollar I also would be more picky.

I have also been hearing the "values are about to take off" since 2011 when I was looking for my car.

[KevinC]

Here's a yardstick of sorts...

In mid-2015 I traded my original Z4MC to EAG. 57k miles, 1-owner car, no accidents or paintwork, Arizona car, always garaged, full maintenance records back to 1200-mile service, 99% bone stock. Non-nav. He sold it for $29,900, and it took a while.

Fast forward to today. Eric has an almost identical car listed - 55k miles, 1 owner, full history, non-nav.. and he's asking $39,900, a whopping 33% jump.

Yes, values are rising. This is a nice car but the mileage isn't particularly low (though certainly on the low end of the spectrum). I think the bottom came right around when I got rid of mine and have been steadily rising since. I see no reason for this trend not to continue.

http://enthusiastauto.com/qsearch/?i...orm_display=51

[The HACK]

Originally Posted by JimBob0047

What I don't get is no mention of Roadster value. Once all the coupes and non nav are gone or too expensive I believe the roadsters with nav will appreciate too. Not as much as the coupe of course but it will go up. Nothing like top down on this chassis. 😁

Also +1 on coco mats. Fit, form and quality are unparalleled!

As Coupes go up in value, so will Roadsters. Z3 M Coupe and Roadsters follow the same pattern.

Also, the Roadsters are holding it’s value compared to other BMWs of the same era. E46 M3 convertibles certainly haven’t taken off in value like the Coupes, and can be had for the mid to low teens. Meanwhile same mileage Z4 M Roadsters are commanding about $10,000 more compared to E46 M3 Convertibles from the same timeframe.

Even later cars, our 2011 335D when new was about the same price as a bare Z4 M, but I’d be ecstatic if we’d be able to get $10K for it.

I wouldn’t be too upset about Roadster prices. Just compared to Coupes they’re not as solidly holding their value, but it’s nothing to scoff at IMO.

[wdb]

Originally Posted by KevinC

We really need to get Doug DeMuro to review one - dude gets like half a million views in 24 hours. Can you imagine the heightened interest he would create?

I wrote to him when I had both a 3.0si and M coupe at once, thought he might like to do a comparo. Never heard back. At the time he was not yet becoming the media monster he is now so I thought I might have a shot.

[pungo]

I have nav and like it. Even though it is way outdated, I still use it on unfamiliar roads to see turns to know a left or right coming up and how sharp they are.


The other benefit is with the Intravee II, I can display the coolant temp, rpm value, max coolant temp, max rpm, max speed as well as acceleration/de-acceleration g-forces. Sure you can do all this stuff with a smart phone, but this is built in and always ready.



When I was searching for mine, nav was one of the must haves, due to above mentioned features I did not want to be without most I saw had it, which made the search easier.



With that said, I not sure having or not having nav will effect the selling price much.

[KevinC]

Originally Posted by KevinC

Fast forward to today. Eric has an almost identical car listed - 55k miles, 1 owner, full history, non-nav.. and he's asking $39,900, a whopping 33% jump.

That listed on the 6th - today it's marked SOLD - 11 days. That's STRONG money for a 55k-mile car, even by EAG standards! And the fact that he found a buyer that fast supports the pricing as legit IMHO.

Another reference point - I traded that first Z4MC towards an E39 M5 to EAG in July 2015 and bought an '02 E39 M5, 59k miles, for $31,900. Looking today at his E39 M5 stock, similar cars are selling for just over $50k. E46 M3's have risen a fair amount too. I think it's safe to assume that the Z4MC is getting pulled along by this wave of interest & respect for the last of the analog M cars.

If you're in the market - buy NOW. They'll probably never be as affordable as they are today. And nice ones get rarer every day - especially available nice ones.

[WickedNy]

When I hit lotto one day I will buy 1 gt4, and an Mcoupe in each color.

[Eau_Rouge111]

Originally Posted by KevinC

I wanted a car with Carbon as my father's car has carbon. Mine came with aluminum. Not that I didn't like it...but some sunny days I found it glared too much in my eyes so I pickup up a set of dash panels off a crashed car on ebay (realoem lists part numbers as the same for the roadster/coupe/M/non M as the same parts), bough 2 yards of thin black leather similar to that the seats are made from and covered the panels. Kept my original panels aside as this thread talks about...these cars do have a certain value that seems to be going up...but while I have it...I prefer the black as the glare is noticeably less.

[1Joel1]

Originally Posted by The HACK

As Coupes go up in value, so will Roadsters. Z3 M Coupe and Roadsters follow the same pattern.

Even later cars, our 2011 335D when new was about the same price as a bare Z4 M, but I’d be ecstatic if we’d be able to get $10K for it.

I wouldn’t be too upset about Roadster prices. Just compared to Coupes they’re not as solidly holding their value, but it’s nothing to scoff at IMO.

I'd also be thrilled if my new 2010 $62k 335d could even bring $8k. No worries, I'll drive it until it falls apart.

As for my 2007 Z4MC, I guess that it is nearly worthless since it has 101k miles on it. Oh well, at least I am enjoying the drive.

Joel

[KevinC]

Originally Posted by 1Joel1

I'd also be thrilled if my new 2010 $62k 335d could even bring $8k. No worries, I'll drive it until it falls apart.

Really, that bad? That's got to be a nice car with that motor and all that torque.

As for my 2007 Z4MC, I guess that it is nearly worthless since it has 101k miles on it. Oh well, at least I am enjoying the drive.

Eh, nothing wrong with that. Yes, if you were to sell it, it would bring less than a 30k-mile car, but as long as you've taken care of it, won't be much (if any) different to you as the owner as "that" car who paid through the nose for it.