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      10-16-2018, 01:31 PM   #67
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They do.



On a related note, I think all of the "prejudice" I receive is because I'm 28 (and look younger). It's always from people old enough to be my dad or older giving me shit for my car, which makes me laugh because neither of my cars are worth more than probably 5-6 grand on a good day. It's more the ignorance that annoys me over anything else.
I totally hear you on this... I'm 31 now but look 18, and the looks I get in my alpine white with coral red interior 335i are pretty ridiculous sometimes. Hell, even back when I had my black on tan 325i E46 I would get the most ridiculous looks. People just don't don't realize how old the cars are sometimes(timeless designs) and how cheap they become after 5+ years old.
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Wait, you illegally exited the lane thru the median AFTER you already saw the cop and are wondering why you got pulled over? Why would you do that even after already seeing the officer?

Maybe because you were the last of the bunch and easiest to grab...
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      10-16-2018, 06:51 PM   #69
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On a related note, I think all of the "prejudice" I receive is because I'm 28 (and look younger). It's always from people old enough to be my dad or older giving me shit for my car, which makes me laugh because neither of my cars are worth more than probably 5-6 grand on a good day. It's more the ignorance that annoys me over anything else.
Oh yeah. Certain used BMW's have really become affordable to buy -- if not to keep. People still see the Bavarian colors and think "snooty uppity snob who drives like a jerk" even though that crown has long since been placed on Audi drivers' heads.
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      10-16-2018, 09:02 PM   #70
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Oh yeah. Certain used BMW's have really become affordable to buy -- if not to keep. People still see the Bavarian colors and think "snooty uppity snob who drives like a jerk" even though that crown has long since been placed on Audi drivers' heads.
No way. Audis are still overwhelmingly driven by badge-seekers. Only the S4 and S5 have some douchebag owners.

We still take the crown for douchebaggery. Audi is not a performance car, it's a poser car.
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car prejudice is real. setting BMW's aside for a sec, how do we feel about Prius drivers? sportbike riders? lifted truck bros?
Prius= tampon on wheels
Sport bike= ok
Lifted truck bros= kings of the douches
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      10-16-2018, 09:12 PM   #72
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has it ever been explained how Audi became a badge that carried prestige, again? i mean...as much as BMW has lost its shit this decade, i think everyone knows that it was a prestige brand for a long time.

did Audi did that Lexus thing where, well because we said this is a prestige brand then you should believe us on this. i mean, the RS7 and R8 are bad ass, but i'm still not clear. although i am four old fashioneds into the night...
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lol thanks for backing me up on this.

my neighbor just bought a can am dune buggy and is racing it up and down our residential streets. this is a new thing that i can't wrap my head around right now
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I haven't had any encounters on the road, but have had co-workers or family members make comments about it. Most know nothing about cars, and assume it is newer than it really is. Once in the 325 someone made a comment about how my daddy must've bought it for me. They were in a newer Suburban. I said you realize this thing is 11 years old right (at the time), and your Suburban cost more than this did new? They shut up after that.

I never understood the prejudice, honestly. I mean you can get a brand new 320i or base model Benz for a bit over 30 grand. Meanwhile the people who look down on you for driving something "expensive" are riding around with mountains of debt driving their $70k luxury trucks and SUVs.

It doesn't bother me, I could care less what people think, but it always reminds me just how ignorant people are.
Facts...I was literally just having this exact conversation with my buddy earlier today. The ignorance is real lol
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lol thanks for backing me up on this.

my neighbor just bought a can am dune buggy and is racing it up and down our residential streets. this is a new thing that i can't wrap my head around right now
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      10-17-2018, 12:20 AM   #76
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I notice I get cut off more in the M3. More people seem to want to mess with me or play.

Contrast this when I'm in the M5. People tend to move aside or stay out of my way when I'm coming up. I'm also generally left alone or given thumbs up.

Go figure.
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Prejudice? Three weeks ago I went from an Audi to a BMW. Dopey WRX drivers always wanted to race the Audi.

Last week I was going home from a meeting via a 30mph residential boulevard. Flow was at slightly above the limit as it transitions into a 25mph school zone. In the mirror I see an AllRoad coming fast. He goes by me doing 50-ish and I thought "I'm glad I'm not lumped in with that D-bag anymore."
A half mile later we all get to a red light and he's in the center lane. I'm in the right turn lane waiting my turn and as he passes he yells at me "Nice car!"

That's when I recognized him as a friend from bike racing. He'd traded his Mazda for the AllRoad the week before.
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My PC interns have helped me learn the lingo, so I'll pass it on. You are all experiencing 'micro-aggressions' that are an expression of the implicit class-dominance structure that oppresses us all. Those hateful other drivers don't realize they are oppressors because their privilege is embedded in class norms that they have been socialized to ignore and see this as normal. Forgive me for not including the obligatory spelling and grammar errors that are usually found in any of these sociopolitical rants, but I too m a product of an overbearing and relentless academic upbringing.

I'm thinking we need "I Can't Speed" shirts, to help build a sense of community .
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      10-24-2018, 12:12 PM   #79
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car prejudice is real. setting BMW's aside for a sec, how do we feel about Prius drivers? sportbike riders? lifted truck bros?
For me it depends a lot on the driver and how they act. I live near a college campus, which brings two sets of people for every vehicle you listed. A Prius can either be an elderly lady from my town going 10 under the speed limit, or some college wacko cutting me off in my Jeep because I'm killing the environment.

Same can be said for sport bike riders and lifted bro truck drivers. I've met plenty from each group that were nice people, but a lot of them are out there for the image, and intentionally try to be a dick. I kinda chuckle every time I see a "motorcycles are everywhere" bumper sticker because usually within 10 minutes some a-hole will pass 3 cars at 100+ mph while doing a wheelie.

Again, I always assume nothing to begin with, then see if the driver fits the stereo type.
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Unfortunately some unconsciously base their speed on the car next to them. I find if I jump on it to get away from them, they back down and keep up with the next car. I don't know what is worse; the pack mentality or drivers' inability to grasp the concept of keeping right except to pass. Drives me CRAZY.
Agreed. Apparently it's become the new normal to want to be herded together so when one idiot decides to make a left turn into the jersey barrier at 70mph because he/she was writing an indignant Yelp review and couldn't be bothered to stay in the lane, everyone gets to be part of the crash.

In CT, most people get on the highway, cut over into the left lane at 50mph, and then stay there until they decide to cut across all lanes for their exit, which apparently they were surprised by. If they notice you, which is sometimes a big if, regardless of the car you drive, they are just generally assholes and enjoy liberal use of their brakes and high beams.
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Agreed. Apparently it's become the new normal to want to be herded together so when one idiot decides to make a left turn into the jersey barrier at 70mph because he/she was writing an indignant Yelp review and couldn't be bothered to stay in the lane, everyone gets to be part of the crash.

In CT, most people get on the highway, cut over into the left lane at 50mph, and then stay there until they decide to cut across all lanes for their exit, which apparently they were surprised by. If they notice you, which is sometimes a big if, regardless of the car you drive, they are just generally assholes and enjoy liberal use of their brakes and high beams.
It's not just CT, it's NY/NJ too. My commute consists of about 5 miles on a two lane parkway. I keep right except to pass. If I am approaching an entrance ramp and see traffic getting on, I move left (to both be polite and because I don't trust others ability to merge) and then move back right in front of them.
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Some jerk will jump on it to get in front of me, only to hit the brake and back down to 50 mph - with no one in the right lane. I hate people.
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BMW owners are the worst drivers in the UK - per this article
http://en.cartests.net/2018/10/22/bm...ers-in-the-uk/
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lol thanks for backing me up on this.

my neighbor just bought a can am dune buggy and is racing it up and down our residential streets. this is a new thing that i can't wrap my head around right now
This has made it's way north of you. I have one of these in my neighborhood as well
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BMW owners are the worst drivers in the UK - per this article
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Whoever wrote that needs to take a writing course. This sentence is really something: “That’s probably the reason why not only did they get too poor control over their expensive cars, but also excessive ‘backwardness’ and a sense of being better than others.”

At least he got the word “too” right (I’m a grammar Nazi and that’s one of my many peeves”). But wow, that’s some seriously shitty writing.
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Previous comments aside ... nothing -- I repeat: nothing -- compares to the prejudice encountered as a sportbike rider. That makes any other type of vehicular anti-marque bias fade to barely noticeable if you're anything but hyper-aware like I am.

That said: BMW bias is real. I live in one of those 'dime-a-dozen' cities, but I don't always drive in the 'dime-a-dozen' areas of that city. Behavior toward my BMW was markedly different between Uptown and, say, Garland, or between the Dallas North Tollway and, say, I-35E between Oak Lawn and I-635.

(What's more real: Porsche bias, in some similar ways (folks cutting you off) and not similar ways (folks with genuine good-natured interest).)

The majority of people may not care what you're driving, but subliminally most know the general profile of a BMW in the same way they know the general profile of a Cadillac, or (at this point) a Prius. That informs behavior. Those who feel that it doesn't don't understand how the human mind works.
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In CT, most people get on the highway, cut over into the left lane at 50mph, and then stay there until they decide to cut across all lanes for their exit, which apparently they were surprised by. If they notice you, which is sometimes a big if, regardless of the car you drive, they are just generally assholes and enjoy liberal use of their brakes and high beams.
Quoted for truth.

I may be the asshole that blocks those people.
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i have had people curse me out and scream at me that, " just bc you can afford a BMW doesnt mean i own the road!!!". this was while driving my '05 X5 last week.... all bc i honked at this Uber driver for cutting me off.
I've driven a lot of nice cars and that's never happened to me. Maybe it's just your style of driving.
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I've driven a lot of nice cars and that's never happened to me. Maybe it's just your style of driving.
i drove professionally for 13 years, all VIP clients. its not my driving style.
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