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      11-07-2018, 11:24 PM   #1937
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6er is a Gran Turismo. Not a Gran Coupe.
Even though it should actually be called a 5er GT.
But I will go ahead and speculate hypothetically. Even though nothing has been discussed internally.
This is the last Gran Turismo.
The i4 or other similar cars will probably provide the extra wheelbase (resulting in more rear legroom) that the 6GT provides.

They could probably replace it with the G38 in most countries tbh.
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      11-08-2018, 08:24 AM   #1938
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Yes but no Audi RS Avants or Mercedes-AMG kombis like Zermatt,St.Moritz,Verbier,Grenoble,Chamonix etc...etc...
You see these all the time. I expect when I go next month to Switzerland I will still see plenty of these models.
Are there pure chain restrictions or does awd + snow tires suffice for the passes there? I suppose there will be spots where only chains will do...
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      11-08-2018, 10:38 AM   #1939
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The i4 or other similar cars will probably provide the extra wheelbase (resulting in more rear legroom) that the 6GT provides.
Will they? I am not sure that there are plans for LWB Gran Coupes or other even-numbered vehicles.

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They could probably replace it with the G38 in most countries tbh.
Or - since presumably the combination of hatchback plus rear passenger room was chosen for a reason and since they seem to be seeing growth in all markets - long wheel base SUVs. They already sell an X1 L* in China. A LWB X3, X5, X7? could be next.
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      11-08-2018, 12:19 PM   #1940
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Will they? I am not sure that there are plans for LWB Gran Coupes or other even-numbered vehicles.



Or - since presumably the combination of hatchback plus rear passenger room was chosen for a reason and since they seem to be seeing growth in all markets - long wheel base SUVs. They already sell an X1 L* in China. A LWB X3, X5, X7? could be next.
The X1L has the hybrid drivetrain only - I guess this is due to packaging. I'm surprised they haven't introduced it in other countries yet actually.

An X4L and X6L could replace the GT quite well for almost everyone.
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      11-08-2018, 12:43 PM   #1941
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The X1L has the hybrid drivetrain only - I guess this is due to packaging. I'm surprised they haven't introduced it in other countries yet actually.
There seems to be gasoline models too, assuming internet sources are credible:

http://carnewschina.com/2016/05/25/b...se-car-market/

I also remembered there is a G08 X3 LWB model either coming soon or already available in China.

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An X4L and X6L could replace the GT quite well for almost everyone.
It's true that the fastback SUVs are closer to the GT aesthetic. But, it's not clear that feature is a must for potential customers. I suppose it could depend on market.
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      11-09-2018, 01:46 PM   #1942
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As the highest tuned B48 cars all going to be badged 35i (so far only the X2) you would think that the same tune on the B48 in the G42 would also be called 35i.
My understanding is that the 300hp tune of B48 (M35i) is only applicable in a FWD based platform.
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      11-09-2018, 02:03 PM   #1943
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My understanding is that the 300hp tune of B48 (M35i) is only applicable in a FWD based platform.
It is for now, but it's a good bet that BMW will eventually have a longitudinal B48 that makes 300hp or more as well.
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      11-09-2018, 03:31 PM   #1944
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It is for now, but it's a good bet that BMW will eventually have a longitudinal B48 that makes 300hp or more as well.
If they hope to stay competitive, you're absolutely correct.
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      11-17-2018, 02:32 AM   #1945
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2020 G11/G12 LCI - March 2019
- 745e iPerformance xDrive (390hp)
Hopefully we will get a G30 45e as well to match G05 and G12.
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      11-21-2018, 12:09 AM   #1946
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What’s the F45?
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      11-21-2018, 12:35 AM   #1947
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      11-21-2018, 11:30 AM   #1948
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But the upcoming G42 2er (i suppose that maybe, the next M2 is G87 coded?) will be produced in Mexico only for the American market, or for all the rest of the world also?
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      11-21-2018, 08:12 PM   #1949
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2020 M550i

I heard 2020 M550i will have the M850's 530 HP version of the 4.4 L V8?
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      11-22-2018, 01:07 AM   #1950
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I heard 2020 M550i will have the M850's 530 HP version of the 4.4 L V8?
Answered in the top post.
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      11-29-2018, 02:51 AM   #1951
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Hi ynguldyn,

can you tell me/us whether the 330e Hybrid will also come as a G21 Touring?

Thanks
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      11-29-2018, 03:41 PM   #1952
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can you tell me/us whether the 330e Hybrid will also come as a G21 Touring?
I can never guarantee that it won't ever, but definitely not anytime soon.
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      11-29-2018, 03:43 PM   #1953
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Heads up: some EOP dates have changed. Of note, F22/F87 and F82 CS are now ending a few months earlier than previously thought.
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      12-01-2018, 03:36 PM   #1954
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I can never guarantee that it won't ever, but definitely not anytime soon.
Actually the 330e Touring was confirmed at an invitation only event in Gothenburg today, according to a Swedish forum. They also showed X3M, X4M, X7 and M8.

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      12-01-2018, 05:18 PM   #1955
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Actually the 330e Touring was confirmed at an invitation only event in Gothenburg today, according to a Swedish forum. They also showed X3M, X4M, X7 and M8.
OK, you made me dig a bit deeper. I did find the 330e Touring, but not as actual cars, just the model data. Expect them some time in 2020, Euro markets only of course.

Along the way, I noticed that the US 330e sedan could actually end up being a bit more powerful than the European one. But that's just a hunch at the moment, no more.
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      12-01-2018, 10:21 PM   #1956
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A friend of mine from school works for a tool and for and mold manufacturer that supplies the equipment to make parts to automobile manufacturers and suppliers.

They currently make the tools and moulds for the X5 center console. I was speaking to him this past week and he said they've started bidding on making the equipment for the X8 center console.
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ynguldyn, there is a rumor around my local dealer (supposedly from BMWUSA marketing/sales) that the X5 M50i (N63TU3) will not come to the US in MY2020 and that we will keep the regular "50i" from MY2019. Everything else I've heard is contrary to this (including from you). Any update on this? Or should we still expect the M50i?
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      12-03-2018, 04:46 PM   #1958
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ynguldyn, there is a rumor around my local dealer (supposedly from BMWUSA marketing/sales) that the X5 M50i (N63TU3) will not come to the US in MY2020 and that we will keep the regular "50i" from MY2019. Everything else I've heard is contrary to this (including from you). Any update on this? Or should we still expect the M50i?
This rumor is plausible - we've seen US cars being delayed in their transition to the new engines before: F30 LCI became 330i B48 in Europe right away, while in the US there was one year of 328i N20/N26 LCI, and the current EU G30 530i is B48TU, while the US one is still the original B46. In the case of the F30 it was actually a very late decision: the US LCI was supposed to have B48 until maybe a year before introduction. So, even though right now all X5 M50i are MY2020, delaying it for some or all markets would not be unusual at all.

Oh, and one more thing: the N63TU3 training manual explicitly states that N63B44M3 is a transitional engine that will be quickly phased out, so BMW is not even hiding this fact from their US technicians.
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