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05-03-2018, 11:37 AM | #1 |
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My Several Reviews on Shift Knobs!
I meant to post this a while ago, but here it is! I believe I have tried almost every common shift knob for the Z4M and figured I would share my thoughts with everyone considering a new knob! (Sorry in advance for the wall of text!)
On Original Shifting Mechanism OEM Broomstick – p/n 25117836906 Yes it lights up, but that’s all that is cool about this knob. Did not like the vagueness of the shift feel and tossed it aside pretty quick. Glad I did! ZHP – p/n 25117896886 Arguably, the most popular shift knob upgrade for the Z4M. Coming in at 5.4 oz, it made shifting gears feel SOOOOOO MUCH BETTER. Ergonomics of this knob are also amazing. This remains my favorite knob in appearance and hand feel, and I thoroughly enjoyed it on the OEM shifting mechanism After Auto Solutions SSK (ninja edit: also after Rouge Engineering transmission and Vibra-Technics engine mounts) ZHP – p/n 25117896886 Following the SSK install, I hate to say the ZHP lost its magic feel for me. With the increased “notchiness” feel of the shifting mechanism, it just didn’t feel as good anymore to be as the weight wasn’t enough to improve the shift feel. I began searching for alternatives BMW Performance - p/n 25110429269 A buddy of mine had this knob laying around so we figured what the hell. This is a seriously cool shift knob in appearance. At 6.3 oz, this knob is noticeably heavier than the ZHP. However, the smaller ergonomics of the knob with my truckasaurus hands didn’t mesh well. In addition, the small nature of the knob didn’t help with the shift feel for me on the SSK. If I had smaller hands and was still on a stock shifter, this would be a serious contender Jaffster - http://www.bimmerworld.com/BMW-Inter...hift-Knob.html Looking around the forums I found a few members who recommended this knob following the AS SSK install and Vanne conveniently was selling a V1 version at the time, so again, “what the hell, why not?” Weighted Broomstick – p/n 25117896884 OEM look with more beef! This is the knob I currently have installed 95% of the time. This knob is not illuminated, but comes in at 6.7 oz. So far, this has been the best “goldilocks” knob for me. Looks good, and the additional height and weight over the ZHP has resulted in a substantially less notchy shift feel, though still moderately present Currently, I have been strongly considering an F10 M5 knob, due to the increased weight over the ZHP, but at $215 bucks that decision is going to sit on the back burner for a while! EDIT I bought another knob, there must be something wrong with me Storm Motorwerks V2 Knob - http://www.storm-motorwerks.com/inte...hift_knobs_v2/ At the suggestion of ZeD4Mr, I did take a look into the Storm Motorwerks Knobs, and ended up purchasing their V2 6 speed in a titanium finish (pics below in comments!)As of now for my personal preference, I would still argue that the Jaffster still provides the best shift feel. As always, YMMV!
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05-03-2018, 12:49 PM | #2 |
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I've tried everything you tried and has the AS SSK as well.
By your descriptions on all these knobs, you will be disappointed with the M5 knob. I have one, it's in the box. In addition to your list, I've also tried ACS knob and Stormwerks V1 knob. By far, Stormwerks is the one I drive everyday. it doesn't get hot in the summer nor cold in the winter. Shifting is heavenly. I occasionally change to Jaffster Knob for track days because of the height but it still feels notchier than Stormwerks. Jaffster is fine on the track since there is a focus on shifting at times but on the street, shifting is done subconsciously and Stormwerks works for me. p. s. I also have RE trans mount and VT Engine mount.
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05-03-2018, 04:17 PM | #3 |
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This is a great post, thanks!! Any pics of the Jaffster or Stormwerks setup?? I have the UUC SSK with the ZHP knob right now, thinking about trying something new
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05-03-2018, 04:44 PM | #4 |
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Great review and I agree how the the Jaffster plus AS kit is the best combo. After a while I wanted to change things up so I went with this oe knob which is pretty tall. Slightly notchier than the Jaffster but overall pretty good:
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05-04-2018, 04:17 PM | #5 |
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Have the bmw performance knob with RE ssk, feels better then the zhp imo.
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I wonder how the shifter on the Z compared to E60, which is used as an “oe” ssk for other models
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05-07-2018, 12:44 AM | #9 |
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So I'm thinking, does the shift knob weight really make a difference? If it does some lead tape or other ballast could be added to several options. Years ago I used lead tape (got it from a Superfund site ) to weight tennis rackets. Huge difference and I could change balance to head light or head heavy. If stock needs more mass then there are some eco-friendly approaches I'd guess.
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05-07-2018, 08:59 AM | #10 |
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Sad to hear the F10 knob would be a let down most likely.
(proceeds to look up Storm Motorwerks knob) "Weighing in at just over 500g..." Holy balls that's heavy, that's over a pound in freedom units! I may have to try it...
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05-07-2018, 10:41 AM | #11 |
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I just put Auto Solutions SSK couple weeks ago to my coupe which still has the stock shift knob and feels okay to be honest, the coupe also has UCC transmission mounts. I have a brand new M5 zhp knob that I am planning in putting it soon but after reading these messages idk anymore, I think I am still going to give it a try anyways.
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05-18-2018, 08:54 AM | #12 |
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Updated post for another shift knob I tried!
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05-18-2018, 09:00 AM | #14 |
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Storm Motorwerks V2 with Titanium Finish (excuse the sagging shift boot!)
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05-18-2018, 03:49 PM | #15 |
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You know what I really want? A heavy ball shifter, but also has lit up numbers. I'm going to make one of these somehow. Not quite sure how yet. Here is my photoshop mock up.
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Doesn't light up, but at 500 grams (almost 18 oz) it is quite heavy!
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Have you guys tried 25112222529?
how easy is it to remove the boot from the knob? Last edited by fryh1n; 12-10-2018 at 11:25 AM.. |
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Mechunik Amber LED Illuminated Shift Knob Feels great and solid since it's technically a chunk of metal I can't get the illumination to work since I think i need a resistor or fix the fuze first but have a look
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I ended up with this, a heavy weighted ball shifter. It feels so nice under the hand and shifts so smoothly that I can't even believe it.
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M5, lighted, heavier than stock, nicer leather boot.
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My "new" M came with a LeatherZ boot with M-color stitching, and either an F10 M5 knob, or ZHP - I'm not sure which, they're nearly identical - but whatever it is, it's lighted, so that's cool. I was going to put a new stock knob in it because I like the extra leverage the extra length provides, but this is just a perfect combo for me, so it stays.
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