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      06-02-2020, 08:41 PM   #23
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I've heard many, many people advocate for this type of action - not just politicians.

It's simply not feasible and everyone, including Biden, should know better. It's the stuff of bad TV/movies....
I would wager that 100% of those people have either never seen a firearm in real life, or have shot a firearm, maybe once, under strict oversight.
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Yeah but a knife isn't a weapon. Only a gun is. That's why the attacker is UNarmed when running at you with a knife.

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Wait. What?

I'm assuming sarcasm here? Because if I have a Bad Guy running at me, brandishing a combat knife, with intent to harm thus assumed, he's armed and I will respond appropriately.

Appropriately being defined in this situation as "Putting him down. Hard."
guess invoking Hopalong Cassidy earlier failed to alert some that sarcasm was afoot...
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guess invoking Hopalong Cassidy earlier failed to alert some that sarcasm was afoot...
I'm delirious from digging, digging and fucking DIGGING in 90 degree heat for the last four days to completely rebuild a sprinkler system and prep for concrete pouring (that the concrete guys COMPLETELY screwed up on the first go-around).

My sarcasm filter's a little wonky due to that. I'm usually a tiny bit sharper
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guess invoking Hopalong Cassidy earlier failed to alert some that sarcasm was afoot...
I'm delirious from digging, digging and fucking DIGGING in 90 degree heat for the last four days to completely rebuild a sprinkler system and prep for concrete pouring (that the concrete guys COMPLETELY screwed up on the first go-around).

My sarcasm filter's a little wonky due to that. I'm usually a tiny bit sharper
for me digging holes is right up there with root canal, but when the weather turns hot root canal wins.
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Or you could live in DC and have the ole so dangerous unregistered ammo without having an actual gun/rifle to load them into. Yeah, the politicians in DC have declared ammo just sitting there is dangerous.

If you think I'm joking, I'm not. Being caught in DC with "unregistered" ammo even if you don't have a firearm within miles is a felony. A friend of mine got caught up in this ridiculousness.
Yeah. Silly. I followed a story about a guy who was caught with a bullet boarding a plane I think it was in Bangkok. Cost him time in jail and money to get out of it.

If that was the law here I'd be in sooooooooooooo much trouble.
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Looks like Grandpa Joey has been watching John Wick 1, 2 and 3 during his shelter at home staycation at the age 55+ paradise resort.

Shooting a bad guy in the leg as he's charging you with a knife, with intent to kill? If Keanu can do it, so can we. Come on guys!
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Looks like Grandpa Joey has been watching John Wick 1, 2 and 3 during his shelter at home staycation at the age 55+ paradise resort.

Shooting a bad guy in the leg as he's charging you with a knife, with intent to kill? If Keanu can do it, so can we. Come on guys!
The irony is, it can potentially more lethal if you're accurate since there's a good chance you can hit the femoral artery and cause massive hemorrhaging leading to death in under 3 minutes. As opposed to shooting at the torso where there's a greater chance of survival. Unless the attackers all carry tourniquets or Joe is expecting you to shoot them in the calf
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prep for concrete pouring (that the concrete guys COMPLETELY screwed up on the first go-around).
That was 2 weekends ago, and I'm only doing 10x8. Although this past weekend, I did remove the 2-high block horseshoe pit I built 20+ years ago. Who the F$%K put rebar into the ground for 2 rows of block I have to say, my new hammer/drill made pretty short work of the seams, then my boy Sledge knocked a lot of it down pretty quick. And I kept my safety glasses on the whole time and didn't even lose an eye
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Fuck off? Im guessing thats directed at Biden?

I was just reporting what was reported by the news.
Of course. lol He's full of "it."
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Shoot into torso.

Biden talking rubbish, if would be killer with knife, yes killer is coming at you and also maybe dodging left and right then you shoot into torso with multiple pulls shouting stop and pray your h/g doesn't jam, if it does run as fast as you can.
I remember a year or two ago a madman with knife outside the White House running amok and police killed him.
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Reaction time and accuracy are entirely independent. You can have the reaction time of 0.5 seconds, but won't matter if you can't aim. Which is what's been reported on police. They lose accuracy under duress. As most would.
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Reaction time and accuracy are entirely independent. You can have the reaction time of 0.5 seconds, but won't matter if you can't aim. Which is what's been reported on police. They lose accuracy under duress. As most would.
I rarely miss a flying clay disk with my 12ga

But nobody ever throws them AT me
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Reaction time and accuracy are entirely independent. You can have the reaction time of 0.5 seconds, but won't matter if you can't aim. Which is what's been reported on police. They lose accuracy under duress. As most would.
I rarely miss a flying clay disk with my 12ga

But nobody ever throws them AT me
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https://nypost.com/2020/06/04/shoote...during-attack/

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Wait. What?

I'm assuming sarcasm here? Because if I have a Bad Guy running at me, brandishing a combat knife, with intent to harm thus assumed, he's armed and I will respond appropriately.

Appropriately being defined in this situation as "Putting him down. Hard."
You better hope its not a fully semiautomatic tactical assault knife...of war
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Reaction time and accuracy are entirely independent. You can have the reaction time of 0.5 seconds, but won't matter if you can't aim. Which is what's been reported on police. They lose accuracy under duress. As most would.
Let's cut their budgets so they can train less. That'll help
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Joe Biden is such a pandering dunce. Cops are trained to shoot and keep shooting until the threatening assailant drops. Then they handcuff the limp corpse and stand around until the ambulance arrives. Do they do this because they are mean? No! they do it because they are trained to. Biden wants to undo all that training because one cop committed a crime? It blows me away that 50 million people are actually going to vote for this guy.

Cops don't shoot unless they intend to kill, so once the decision is made, they are trained to empty the mag(s). The "shocking" reports of 20 shots fired at one assailant are actually spot on if two cops are doing the shooting. It's simple math, Joe.

Here's some irony for ya: If you shoot to kill and actually kill someone, you might win that one as self defense. However, intentionally shoot a guy in the leg and you go to jail for attempted murder. The reasoning is actually simple: If you didn't intend to use lethal force, the threat wasn't really justified to use a gun at all.
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Joe Biden is such a pandering dunce. Cops are trained to shoot and keep shooting until the threatening assailant drops. Then they handcuff the limp corpse and stand around until the ambulance arrives. Do they do this because they are mean? No! they do it because they are trained to. Biden wants to undo all that training because one cop committed a crime? It blows me away that 50 million people are actually going to vote for this guy.

Cops don't shoot unless they intend to kill, so once the decision is made, they are trained to empty the mag(s). The "shocking" reports of 20 shots fired at one assailant are actually spot on if two cops are doing the shooting. It's simple math, Joe.

Here's some irony for ya: If you shoot to kill and actually kill someone, you might win that one as self defense. However, intentionally shoot a guy in the leg and you go to jail for attempted murder. The reasoning is actually simple: If you didn't intend to use lethal force, the threat wasn't really justified to use a gun at all.
Yeah you use too much logic based on facts. That won't work in today's society.
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Joe, and simpletons that think like him, are blithely unaware that a main branch off your aorta continues into your legs (AKA femoral artery) and when severed, such as with a bullet, the bleed out is pretty quick, but slow enough that you know you're f&^ked and have time to think about it.
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There were some studies done here in Canada in the late 1980's and early 90's that greatly informed police training. The training has continued to be modified over the years but the sort story is this. If someone brandishes a knife and you as a police officer have to respond, that person can easily close a 20+ foot distance before you recognize the knife, draw your pistol, acquire a site picture and fire one round. That is optimal and often the reaction time is longer. The only appropriate use of force option for any edged weapon is a firearm.
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