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      10-12-2011, 07:22 AM   #1
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Thank you David at Zeckhausen Racing for the brake upgrade you sold me.

The difference over the stock set-up is crazy.

Totally insane stopping power.

Brakes Front:
StopTech 380x32 mm Discs
StopTech Trophy Sport STR-60 Calipers

Brakes Rear:
StopTech 355x32 mm Discs
StopTech Trophy Sport STR-40 Calipers





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Very nice

Do you track the car at all?
I'm just wondering how the 380mm fronts affect braking bias.
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Wow, that's a nice setup. One of the best kits stoptech offers.
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Those things look huge on the front. I'm assuming you have 19's?
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Damn,very very niceeeeeeeeeee.
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Beautiful kit, i have Full AP BBk it is right up their with the s/c in terms of bang for buck, they have literally transformed the driving experience........ i have 370mmx32 upfront and i think 330 x 32 at the rear.

please please please get it to a track to heat these things up, they are at their best when being used properly.....
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OMFG!! So insane!!! May I ask the cost?????
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if you have to ask....
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just need to know if it worth getting over the 355 standard 6 piston stoptech offers.........

you know... to put on my imaginary z4m coupe I'm building.. its sub 60 seconds at Lime Rock.....in my mind!!!!
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$3300 front
$2600 rears

its on the website
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$3300 front
$2600 rears

its on the website

I don't think that's for the trophy caliper setup.... maybe I'm wrong
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Totally insane stopping power.
I think even Zeckhausen will tell you that stopping power is mostly determined by the availability of grip...The ONLY thing that big brake kit improve upon over the stock brakes, especially on the MZ4 Coupe, is fade resistance and pedal feel.
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I think even Zeckhausen will tell you that stopping power is mostly determined by the availability of grip...The ONLY thing that big brake kit improve upon over the stock brakes, especially on the MZ4 Coupe, is fade resistance and pedal feel.
Very well said.
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$3300 front
$2600 rears

its on the website
Hello Roffle Waffle,

Not exactly.

Unfortunately that price is for the 'standard' StopTech callipers.

The StopTech Trophy series will run you to $4,045.00 for the front and $3,345.00 for the rear plus an additional charge for special gold zinc coating on the slotted Aero-Rotors
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Those things look huge on the front. I'm assuming you have 19's?
Hello esqu1re,

Yes they are 19" wheels.
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Very nice

Do you track the car at all?
I'm just wondering how the 380mm fronts affect braking bias.

Hello inTgr8r,

StopTech brake kits are engineered to provide a 'Balanced' brake system.

That is one of StopTech's main selling points.

As you increase rotor diameter, you need to decrease piston size to compensate. Otherwise, your brake torque will be too high and the brakes will be unbalanced.

Obviously this is accounted and engineered for in the ordering stage for each application.
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Beautiful kit, i have Full AP BBk it is right up their with the s/c in terms of bang for buck, they have literally transformed the driving experience........ i have 370mmx32 upfront and i think 330 x 32 at the rear.

please please please get it to a track to heat these things up, they are at their best when being used properly.....
Hello Beedub,

Yes you are correct.

The driving experience is so different from before to after. I lusted after a kit like this for years before I finally dropped the hammer and ordered one.

"Oh, you don't need that as the BMW OEM set-up is fine with the right pads and high temp fluid."

Usually you only hear that negative type of misleading advise from those who don't have them.

Well, I will say without a shadow of a doubt, don't believe people like that for a minute.

I would spend the money again and again if I knew then what I know now.

It seems like it is not even the same vehicle anymore.

The extra confidence these BBK's give the driver and the later you can leave your braking is silly and cannot truly be fully explained until you have experienced them for yourself.

I have noticed:
  • Incredibly Short Stopping Distances
  • Awesome Brake Modulation
  • Rock hard Brake Pedal Feel
  • Absolutely No Brake Fade
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Incredibly Short Stopping Distances
You just lost all credibility there. Unless you're upgrade also includes incredibly sticky tires, there's absolutely no way upgrading to a "big brake kit" will decrease stopping distance compared to a stock system.

I'm going to reiterate. Stopping distance has more to do with the available grip of the tires than the size of your brakes and the number(s) of pistons it's got.
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You just lost all credibility there. Unless you're upgrade also includes incredibly sticky tires, there's absolutely no way upgrading to a "big brake kit" will decrease stopping distance compared to a stock system.

I'm going to reiterate. Stopping distance has more to do with the available grip of the tires than the size of your brakes and the number(s) of pistons it's got.
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Unless you got stickier tires, your stopping distance would not improve with this setup.
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You just lost all credibility there. Unless you're upgrade also includes incredibly sticky tires, there's absolutely no way upgrading to a "big brake kit" will decrease stopping distance compared to a stock system.

I'm going to reiterate. Stopping distance has more to do with the available grip of the tires than the size of your brakes and the number(s) of pistons it's got.
I think he got the point the first time around, you just sound like a broken record trying to get attention now. Fact is the brake upgrade will decrease stopping distance, and yes, not because they are bigger or have more pistons specifically, but because of things like the pedal feel and balance being better. I'm sure it's a lot easier for him to now brake at the threshold and stop much sooner. You know this I'm sure, but you just want to jump on the guy for your own self importance.

So you get a "cool story bro".

PS in the case of the z4 the balance really did turn out amazing (or at least in the case of my tire setup) the car hunkers on all 4 corners and you leave 4 sets stripes under threshold braking behind you. You can't do that with the oem brakes, so you sure as hell are stopping faster.

My e46 did not gain this at all, just to illustrate somethings are application specific and really people shouldn't open their mouths without that application specific experience.
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And before you go hooting and hollering because daddy put you in time out, I agree with you, its most to do with available grip, if you stop there you're fine. But when you make the generalized statement that they don't increase the ability to stop sooner, you lose. Because generalizations are for the ignorant, and are usually wrong.
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You just lost all credibility there. Unless you're upgrade also includes incredibly sticky tires, there's absolutely no way upgrading to a "big brake kit" will decrease stopping distance compared to a stock system.

I'm going to reiterate. Stopping distance has more to do with the available grip of the tires than the size of your brakes and the number(s) of pistons it's got.
Wow, that's harsh...

Likely the number one limiting factor in most modern BMW's is the
ABS (with G sensors). Under dry conditions with good tire the ABS will kick
in before you have maximized the available braking performance.
(r-compounds and slicks really highlite this point)

This said larger brakes can offer improved stopping distance over the factory
set up, since fade can occur even in a single brake application. The only
way to know is to actually test it. From a drivers perspective, if the new
brakes improve initial bite, pedal feel and modulatation this translates
to the feeling of improved stopping distances
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