BMW CCA AutoX

[fitchesbass]

Some pictures I took from this past weekend at summit point CCA Autox.

All in all it was a fun day - just a bit wet and slippery, which made it interesting.

Enjoy

(BTW I traveled out from Arlington, VA with the guy in the hellrot E36 Sedan)

[fitchesbass]

BTW I was gonna try and run some 20" wheels to get the best handling, but it just wasn't in the budget...

[Tonybest]

Great pics, nice turnout.

I too had an event on Sat. Car control Clinic plus Mini Auto-X in afternoon.

Circular and Figure-8 skid pad. Breaking and avoiding drills, slalom.

Nice way to learn the dynamics of the car and its limits. (the driver's too)

[bkz4mc]

Originally Posted by fitchesbass

BTW I was gonna try and run some 20" wheels to get the best handling, but it just wasn't in the budget...

Nice pics man... looks like ya had fun

If you do a little more research on handling you'll find that 20" rims will actually give you WORSE handling.... 20" rims will be A LOT heavier than your stock wheels that are already pretty heavy.

Heavier rims will slow your 0-60 times because the motor has to rotate more weight, and also aid in your car not cornering as fast in the turns because of excess weight that needs to be redirected.

Look into it a little more and you'll read up on it all. The misconception that it handles better is because people feel the lack of a taller tire side wall that makes the wheels / tires feel firmer, but that's it.

I've got 19's on my car at the moment ( Morr's ) that weigh 19lbs front and 20lbs in the rear. Which is pretty light for a 19", but it's still kinda heavy. So I'm gonna get some lightweight 18" wheels just for auto-x / track. You can get some 18" rims in the 17 / 18 lbs range for a decent price... I believe that the stockers are something like 25 / 26 lbs. 20" rims depending what you get are probably over or close to 30lbs.

So just imagine how much quicker you could accelerate and corner with a wheel that weighs around 10 / 12 lbs a WHEEL less than a 20" ... x 4 wheels.... Unsprung weight is the best weight to save, you'll read that anywhere

B

[jgorman13]

tr motorsport MT1 18" wheels are pretty decent for autox. Theyre pretty light and about as inexpensive as ive seen and built very well.

[03BeastCharmer]

Originally Posted by bkz4mc

If you do a little more research on handling you'll find that 20" rims will actually give you WORSE handling.... 20" rims will be A LOT heavier than your stock wheels that are already pretty heavy.

I think that was sarcasm towards the guy who put 20in X5 rims on the Z4 for improved handling.
http://www.zpost.com/forums/showthre...91#post5046791

[bkz4mc]

Originally Posted by 03BeastCharmer

I think that was sarcasm towards the guy who put 20in X5 rims on the Z4 for improved handling.
http://www.zpost.com/forums/showthre...91#post5046791

Yea, I saw that post and refrained... hahaha

I hope he was being sarcastic, cuz I've seen a few silly claims / beliefs around here...

[fitchesbass]

Haha, thanks for the comments guys. I guess my sarcasm was a bit much on that one. I was trying to joke around because the other thread claimed that his car handled better via 20" X5 wheels (insert baller-ness here).

Rotational mass weight ftl.

Thanks for all the comments.

I come from the E36 crowd so I am use to being sarcastic and giving a little touch love. There are all kinds of crazies in the E36 world.

[bkz4mc]

Love Touch FTW....

[03BeastCharmer]

Looks like fun. What type of facility was the event held at? No numbers on the cars? How did you and your ill handling 18's do against your hellrod friend?

[fitchesbass]

Originally Posted by bkz4mc

Love Touch FTW....

oops maybe a typo on my part. That's what I get for typing fast and not proof reading.

you get the idea though.

Originally Posted by 03BeastCharmer

Looks like fun. What type of facility was the event held at? No numbers on the cars? How did you and your ill handling 18's do against your hellrod friend?

It was held at summit point. Part of the course was on the skid pad / drift area which made it really slick... especially since it was raining. This was my first event with the M coupe and I faired pretty well. Hardnest thing for me is getting use to the power of the S54 (im use to the whopping 240bhp from the S52). I kept putting the car sideways and losing time. I need to work on my throttle control better.. but there is a whole season of Auto-x ahead so I'm excited.

My buddy in the E36 has GC coils and a few other goodies. I think he posted one of the best times of the day, so he did real well. All in all, it was a lot of fun with some real nice folks.

M coupe is a blast... the only thing I realized is how quiet my car is compared to my old E36. My car was so quiet compared to some of the cars, it might have been mistaken for a hybrid...

[Tonybest]

Originally Posted by fitchesbass

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M coupe is a blast... the only thing I realized is how quiet my car is compared to my old E36. My car was so quiet compared to some of the cars, it might have been mistaken for a hybrid...

Sound is energy.... less sound heard = more energy for the car. HEY Don't quote me on this.

[fitchesbass]

^ very true!

I love that its quiet except when I am with enthusiasts.. haha. My old e36 was loud has heck and was annoying when I drove other people in my car.