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      02-17-2010, 11:06 AM   #1
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Caliper Bushing Upgrade, Is it worth it?

Now that I have my new MC, it is already time to start modifying....

While I am not ready yet to do a complete brake system upgrade, I want to do some of the little things to make the OEM system more efficient.

I already have SpeedBleeders ordered. I use them on all my vehicles...

I am researching new brake pads. Looking for a good street and occasional track pad.. I do have more research on this topic.

I have seen the caliper bushing upgrade kits on Turner and other sites.

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html...ODUCT_ID=CBMW1

After searching all five (5) pages in this section, I did not find what I wanted.

My questions is this.

Is this a worthwhile upgrade? They are pretty inexpensive..

What are the pros and cons?

Edit: I do understand that these types of bushings are a maintenance item and must be cleaned and re-lubricated every 3000 to 5000 miles.

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Now that I have my new MC, it is already time to start modifying....

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I am researching new brake pads. Looking for a good street and occasional track pad.. I do have more research on this topic.

I have seen the caliper bushing upgrade kits on Turner and other sites.

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html...ODUCT_ID=CBMW1

After searching all five (5) pages in this section, I did not find what I wanted.
My questions is this.
Is this a worthwhile upgrade? They are pretty inexpensive..
What are the pros and cons?
Edit: I do understand that these types of bushings are a maintenance item and must be cleaned and re-lubricated every 3000 to 5000 miles.
How "occasional" is occasional? If you're talking about a couple of driving schools per season then you can get by with a street pad like the Axxis Ult Ceramic or the Performance Friction Z-Rated pad. I prefer a dedicated track pad such as the PF-01 or new PF-06.
Unless you plan on using your Z4M as a dedicated track car with R-compound tires don't waste your money on caliper bushings, SS brake lines or BBK. Install some good high temperature competition brake pads and you are good to go.
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How "occasional" is occasional? If you're talking about a couple of driving schools per season then you can get by with a street pad like the Axxis Ult Ceramic or the Performance Friction Z-Rated pad. I prefer a dedicated track pad such as the PF-01 or new PF-06.
Unless you plan on using your Z4M as a dedicated track car with R-compound tires don't waste your money on caliper bushings, SS brake lines or BBK. Install some good high temperature competition brake pads and you are good to go.
+1 The only thing I'd add is a higher temp brake fluid as these aren't the world's lightest cars.
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+1 The only thing I'd add is a higher temp brake fluid as these aren't the world's lightest cars.
RGR that about High Temp Brake fluid.

I have ATE Super Blue in the Roadster and Honda...

I will be doing the MC very soon.
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+1 The only thing I'd add is a higher temp brake fluid as these aren't the world's lightest cars.
Good point
I alternate Ate Super Blue with Ate TYP200 and pressure bleed using the Motive Bleeder.
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I wouldn't do the bushings, they are still sliding calipers and they will still do the same thing. Plus I have heard that when they get gunk in there the start to stick, which is a lot worse.

I agree on the SS brake lines being a waste, but I don't think a BBK is a waste of money, though it surely is a lot.
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Occasional.... really means when my job schedule allows me.

Tentatively, I am scheduled for HPDE events at VIR (Virginia International Raceway) on 2-3 Apr and 15-16 May, but this job (I am up in CT trying to get the USS North Carolina SSN-777, ready for sea) may run long....
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If you're talking about a couple of driving schools per season then you can get by with a street pad like the Axxis Ult Ceramic or the Performance Friction Z-Rated pad. I prefer a dedicated track pad such as the PF-01 or new PF-06.
Unless you plan on using your Z4M as a dedicated track car with R-compound tires don't waste your money on caliper bushings, SS brake lines or BBK. Install some good high temperature competition brake pads and you are good to go.
Your train of thought was what I was thinking. I was am not ready for any of the big dollar, really high performance brake parts yet. I do want new pads. The OEM pads just have too much dust.

I put AXXIS Deluxe on the Roadster in 2007 and they perform MUCH better than the OEM pads, and generate much less dust. Someone else has also recommended Cool Carbons.

I have not made up my mind on brake pads yet. I have more research to do on the subject.

I research everything.....to death...
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