KW Clubsports & linear springs

flipm3 · 06-03-2012, 03:53 PM

I didn't know that RE supposedly used better material. Definitely good to know!

I'll keep that in mind in the future when I get different dampers for my own car.

Thanks for sharing!

EMP07 · 06-03-2012, 04:07 PM

Got the RE perches this week. Below is a brief outline of my install. I timed out because of family obligations and will post more pictures of the final positioning in a couple of weeks.

Updated:

Hyperco 5" Springs with nylon upper spring perches

Adjustable perch on the lower arm.

Summary:
I tried the 6" KW springs which work, but the articulating perch adjuster sits too low, and the adjuster from beneath the car was too close to the drive shaft for my liking.

No chatter or noise of any kind so far.

EMP07 · 06-03-2012, 11:26 PM

It occurred to me this evening that the dual perch thing is absolutely ridiculously.

I just ordered alignment perches to replace my KW perches.

I'll keep those interested posted with photos of the final install.

3002 tii · 06-04-2012, 09:15 AM

Nice, I was thinking of RE adjustables too b/c such a pain to change ride height on the rears.

flipm3 · 06-05-2012, 09:48 AM

Great update!

By any chance, do you know if this is safe to use with the KW progressive rear springs? I believe our ID is 61mm. I know RE specifically says 60mm or 2.25".

modernbeat · 06-05-2012, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flipm3

Great update!

By any chance, do you know if this is safe to use with the KW progressive rear springs? I believe our ID is 61mm. I know RE specifically says 60mm or 2.25".

Yes, 61mm springs and 60mm perches are a match.

Gt4 · 07-13-2012, 09:02 PM

I just finished installing my new Hyperco springs 550 front 650 rear.

Alignment and corner balance next week and track day at LCMT next Friday, can't wait!

Beedub · 07-14-2012, 01:58 PM

clubsport guys, just wondering....

whats the minimum the clubsports can be lowered??? i.e whats the closest i can get to stock ride height, anyone got min-max lowering heights for the z4m clubsport kit.

inTgr8r · 07-15-2012, 08:30 PM

FWIW from Turner Motorsport.
"Height adjustable coilovers - Front - 20-50mm, Rear - 15-40mm "

from another site...
"The vehicle can be height adjusted from 5-45 mm on front and rear axle. "

I think the 2nd numbers are closer to reality.

dorifto88 · 07-15-2012, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beedub

clubsport guys, just wondering....

whats the minimum the clubsports can be lowered??? i.e whats the closest i can get to stock ride height, anyone got min-max lowering heights for the z4m clubsport kit.

if for whateveer reason you want to go lower, you can upgrade to a set of shorter springs

EMP07 · 07-16-2012, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gtfour

I just finished installing my new Hyperco springs 550 front 650 rear.

Alignment and corner balance next week and track day at LCMT next Friday, can't wait!

Great stuff! Are you using articulating perches?

I've got a couple of sets, 450/550 and trying a 500/600, and may move to 550/650 depending how this set feels for some daily driving.

Beedub · 07-16-2012, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inTgr8r

FWIW from Turner Motorsport.
"Height adjustable coilovers - Front - 20-50mm, Rear - 15-40mm "

from another site...
"The vehicle can be height adjusted from 5-45 mm on front and rear axle. "

I think the 2nd numbers are closer to reality.

i saw that too, noticed varying info... Thanks for your input. edit.... just spoke to kw germany... minimum lower on the front is 10mm, minimum lowering ont he rear is 5mm.... will run this 10mm all round....

EMP07 · 07-22-2012, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gtfour

I just finished installing my new Hyperco springs 550 front 650 rear.

Alignment and corner balance next week and track day at LCMT next Friday, can't wait!

What is your rear set-up? spring size and perch.

The RE e46 perches do not fit our cars and the Hyperco springs do not fit the KW perches. I either have to get KW springs or find a top perch that will fit the Z4M.

I've tried removing the threaded adjuster from the KW perch but the spring chatters like crazy.

It's been fun though

part of the process.

Gt4 · 07-23-2012, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EMP07

What is your rear set-up? spring size and perch.

The RE e46 perches do not fit our cars and the Hyperco springs do not fit the KW perches. I either have to get KW springs or find a top perch that will fit the Z4M.

I've tried removing the threaded adjuster from the KW perch but the spring chatters like crazy.

It's been fun though

part of the process.

I have 550/650 springs, 5.5'' long, 60mm diameter, KW perches. It is far from an ideal setup but was very fun on the track this weekend.

The 550/650 is firm but perfect for mix of daily driving/track. It's the perfect compromise. I would go stiffer on the track but it would be too stiff for the street then.

Why are the RE E46 perches won't fit our cars? Inner diameter?

EMP07 · 07-23-2012, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gtfour

I have 550/650 springs, 5.5'' long, 60mm diameter, KW perches. It is far from an ideal setup but was very fun on the track this weekend.

The 550/650 is firm but perfect for mix of daily driving/track. It's the perfect compromise. I would go stiffer on the track but it would be too stiff for the street then.

Why are the RE E46 perches won't fit our cars? Inner diameter?

RE perches have a smaller inner diameter on the e46 than the e86. I'm surprised your adjustable KW perches fit the hyperco's. I have 5" 60mm springs and they don't fit

EMP07 · 08-05-2012, 12:08 PM

Updated the pictures of the full set-up top of this page.

I bored out the nylon perches to make them fit.

The world is a better place now. No chatter, great fitment.

Beedub · 08-05-2012, 03:48 PM

OP your hardcore..... the kw clubsports set at the kw recommended bump and rebound for me is rock hard!! lol!!! lovely feel to the car however!!

EMP07 · 08-07-2012, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beedub

OP your hardcore..... the kw clubsports set at the kw recommended bump and rebound for me is rock hard!! lol!!! lovely feel to the car however!!

I think i'm pretty soft compare to others

. But i guess it depends on where you live and and your driving priorities.

tikamak · 02-27-2013, 03:44 AM

If anyone is looking to swap his front KW Clubsport springs into linear, i'd like to buy those springs.

We're talking 2 springs, 2 helper springs and 2 intermediate rings.

Gt4 · 02-27-2013, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tikamak

If anyone is looking to swap his front KW Clubsport springs into linear, i'd like to buy those springs.

We're talking 2 springs, 2 helper springs and 2 intermediate rings.

I can sell my 2 front KW Clubsport 400 springs and 2 rear KW Clubsport progressive springs if interested but I will keep the helper springs and rings. I am not selling front and rear separately.

Looking for $160+shipping

tikamak · 02-28-2013, 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gtfour

I can sell my 2 front KW Clubsport 400 springs and 2 rear KW Clubsport progressive springs if interested but I will keep the helper springs and rings. I am not selling front and rear separately.

Looking for $160+shipping

Not that it is beneficiary for me, but shouldn't you be using an appropriate helper springs to compress the new rated Hyperco springs?

Gt4 · 02-28-2013, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tikamak

Not that it is beneficiary for me, but shouldn't you be using an appropriate helper springs to compress the new rated Hyperco springs?

What would be an appropriate helper springs rate for a 550 spring vs a 400? Not sure to understand...

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EMP07 First Lieutenant 37 Rep 398 Posts Drives: Z4M Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (6)	Got the RE perches this week. Below is a brief outline of my install. I timed out because of family obligations and will post more pictures of the final positioning in a couple of weeks. Updated: Hyperco 5" Springs with nylon upper spring perches Adjustable perch on the lower arm. Summary: I tried the 6" KW springs which work, but the articulating perch adjuster sits too low, and the adjuster from beneath the car was too close to the drive shaft for my liking. No chatter or noise of any kind so far. __________________ BSM Z4M Coupe Last edited by EMP07; 08-05-2012 at 12:06 PM..
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EMP07 First Lieutenant 37 Rep 398 Posts Drives: Z4M Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (6)	Updated the pictures of the full set-up top of this page. I bored out the nylon perches to make them fit. The world is a better place now. No chatter, great fitment. __________________ BSM Z4M Coupe
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Beedub Major General 423 Rep 5,327 Posts Drives: 2007 Z4 M roadster vt2-500 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	OP your hardcore..... the kw clubsports set at the kw recommended bump and rebound for me is rock hard!! lol!!! lovely feel to the car however!! __________________ Z4MR VT2 - Clubsport build. Multi award winning Detailing \| Wrap \| PPF specialists UK based - www.topwrapz.com
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