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      02-20-2024, 10:47 AM   #6711
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As Cyberattacks Ramp Up, Electric Vehicles Are Vulnerable
Feb 19, 2024
As we enter the age of the software-defined automobile, especially those with electric drivetrains, we’re facing unprecedented risk from cyberattacks, say a wide coterie of experts. According to the Israel-based Upstream firm, from 2019 to 2023 disclosed cybersecurity incidents in the automotive and mobility space increased by more than 50%, with 295 such occurrences in 2023.
“The smarter a vehicle, the more vulnerable it is,” she said. “A single incident could cause a lot of damage to an OEM. Over-the-air updates could fix the vulnerability, but that would cost millions, too.
For EVs, the connected charging network is a target. Last year, the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) prepared a draft guidance that called on companies deploying fast chargers to secure their digital payment systems.

The government’s report said that in 2023, the US had more than 48,000 public charging stations, and they “connect and communicate with cloud providers and third-party vendors for EVSE location information, billing and other services.”

As WardsAuto reported, in 2022 the charging network on the Isle of Wight in the UK was penetrated to the extent that the chargers’ screens displayed pornography. And in 2021, Ukrainian hackers broke into Russia’s biggest EV charging network and claimed to have stolen 900 gigabytes of data from it.
https://www.autoweek.com/news/a46857...-and-chargers/

Seriously doubt this is limited to EV's.
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      02-20-2024, 11:22 AM   #6712
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This car continues to fall into the same lake and burn over and over again. It is impressive how it gets repaired every few months and then does the same thing again.
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      02-20-2024, 11:27 AM   #6713
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What to Expect From an Electric NASCAR Racecar?
Feb 15, 2024
NASCAR has been diligent about that possibility and has already worked on an electric prototype stock car. Development began in 2022 and was finalized towards the end of 2023.
From Ragan’s notes, it appears that NASCAR has developed quite the future-ready race car. The car can go speeds as tall as the regular car (200 mph) and not make nearly as much noise. According to the driver, one can easily have a conversation around the track amid the race.
https://thesportsrush.com/nascar-new...ascar-racecar/

What could possibly go wrong 200mph incendiary device.
Think about the future racing EV cars with weight of 4000+ plus with top speed of over 200mph and drove to the grandstands . The picture will not be pretty at all.
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Think about the future racing EV cars with weight of 4000+ plus with top speed of over 200mph and drove to the grandstands . The picture will not be pretty at all.
There will be complete carnage in the stands and it is expected that thousands will die before the madness is stopped.
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Outraged EV driver calls out person who vandalized charging station: ‘That is just unacceptable’
February 20, 2024
The cable connecting to the part that attaches to the car was gone. The video was captioned, “Some ignorant person that refuses to adopt technology vandalized this EV charger!”
Another issue? Thieves stealing the cables for their valuable copper, and this is where the divide fell between the commenters.
Olivera responded: “This is a known issue that people are doing to inconvenience and slow down the EV revolution! Like people parking non-EV in the EV charging stalls.”

Another person commented: “Nah. It’s because they can sell copper.”

Olivera was willing to give in a little, saying, “It is possible but it’s a 50/50 either way.”
https://www.thecooldown.com/green-bu...tation-charge/

Any questions on the nature of many EV owners?
Thefts of copper wire aren't likely to stop in Canada anytime soon. To make it even worse, now thefts have a much easy target. EV chargers!!

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...cuit-1.6696360
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      02-20-2024, 11:41 AM   #6716
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US to soften tailpipe rules, slow EV transition through 2030
February 20, 2024
Automakers and the United Auto Workers had urged the Bozo administration to slow the proposed ramp-up in EV sales. They say EV technology is still too costly for many mainstream U.S. consumers and that more time is needed to develop the charging infrastructure.
The Environmental Protection Agency in April 2023 proposed requiring a 56% reduction in new vehicle emissions by 2032. Under the initial EPA proposal covering 2027-2032, automakers were expected to aim for EVs to constitute 60% of their new vehicle production by 2030 and 67% by 2032 to meet stricter emissions requirements.
White House climate adviser Ali Zaidi, who has held talks with automakers on tailpipe rules, said in a statement Sunday the United States is "harnessing the power of smart investments (ESG) and standards to ensure U.S. workers will lead, not follow, the global auto sector."
The EPA is also expected to address other concerns raised by automakers including a proposal to drastically reduce particulate matter from gas-powered vehicles, which the industry has argued would effectively require gasoline particulate filters on every gas-powered vehicle.
https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...es-2024-02-18/

Translation: It's election year and we need to stay in power and as soon as we win, we will replace our boot on the throats of the auto companies and force our EV dreams on everyone.
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      02-20-2024, 11:43 AM   #6717
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There will be complete carnage in the stands and it is expected that thousands will die before the madness is stopped.
Step away from the bong!
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      02-20-2024, 11:49 AM   #6718
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As Cyberattacks Ramp Up, Electric Vehicles Are Vulnerable
Feb 19, 2024
As we enter the age of the software-defined automobile, especially those with electric drivetrains, we’re facing unprecedented risk from cyberattacks, say a wide coterie of experts. According to the Israel-based Upstream firm, from 2019 to 2023 disclosed cybersecurity incidents in the automotive and mobility space increased by more than 50%, with 295 such occurrences in 2023.
“The smarter a vehicle, the more vulnerable it is,” she said. “A single incident could cause a lot of damage to an OEM. Over-the-air updates could fix the vulnerability, but that would cost millions, too.
For EVs, the connected charging network is a target. Last year, the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) prepared a draft guidance that called on companies deploying fast chargers to secure their digital payment systems.

The government’s report said that in 2023, the US had more than 48,000 public charging stations, and they “connect and communicate with cloud providers and third-party vendors for EVSE location information, billing and other services.”

As WardsAuto reported, in 2022 the charging network on the Isle of Wight in the UK was penetrated to the extent that the chargers’ screens displayed pornography. And in 2021, Ukrainian hackers broke into Russia’s biggest EV charging network and claimed to have stolen 900 gigabytes of data from it.
https://www.autoweek.com/news/a46857...-and-chargers/

Seriously doubt this is limited to EV's.
Don't complain I didn't warn you. Cyber Crime is the number one threat in the whole world.
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      02-20-2024, 11:50 AM   #6719
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The rights of the EV vs the rights of the citizens? Who will win in LA?
How hard should L.A. go after copper wire thieves? Council members hold a lively debate
Feb. 17, 2024
The anecdote was shared at the end of a nearly one-hour debate Wednesday — in which more than half of the City Council spoke — over whether to approve motions by Councilmembers Kevin de León and Traci Park to curb copper wire theft. Beyond wire theft, the invigorating conversation illuminated the council members’ differing approaches to crime, with some wishing for more preventive efforts and others pushing for accountability.
Los Angeles, CA - July 27: The new 6th Street Bridge has been closed intermittently since opening due to street racing and other illegal activity on Wednesday, July 27, 2022 in Los Angeles, CA. (Brian van der Brug / Los Angeles Times)
In late December, thieves stole a third of the 6th Street Viduct’s copper wires. De León, whose district includes the structure, said the individuals could receive a “street value” of $11,000 for the stolen material. But repairs will cost taxpayers $2.5 million.
https://www.latimes.com/california/s...e-theft-debate
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      02-20-2024, 11:52 AM   #6720
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Step away from the bong!
It was sarcasm. I'm not the one clutching pearls over EV racing slaughtering people in the stands.
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Step away from the bong!
I will only watch the EV racing on the TV. Save me lot of money. Thank you for the future car racing
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EV Nascar...the world has gone mad. Need a new Pres, he'll stop the madness.
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Don't complain I didn't warn you. Cyber Crime is the number one threat in the whole world.
There is a film/movie about it I believe, all Teslas are involved.
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Thefts of copper wire aren't likely to stop in Canada anytime soon. To make it even worse, now thefts have a much easy target. EV chargers!!

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...cuit-1.6696360
Easy peasy for the thieves late at night on a deserted station, like taking candy from a kid.
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EV Nascar...the world has gone mad. Need a new Pres, he'll stop the madness.
Madness goes far past any one president. Things went off the rails right after George Washington
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Madness goes far past any one president. Things went off the rails right after George Washington
''There will be no whitewash in the Whitehouse!'
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Well mate , hopefully you're not 'butthurt ?
I thought my post was fairly funny.
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Easy peasy for the thieves late at night on a deserted station, like taking candy from a kid.
The new name for charging stations: Drive in all you can steal
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Things that make you go hmmmmmm.
US to soften tailpipe rules, slow EV transition through 2030
February 20, 2024
Automakers and the United Auto Workers had urged the Bozo administration to slow the proposed ramp-up in EV sales. They say EV technology is still too costly for many mainstream U.S. consumers and that more time is needed to develop the charging infrastructure.
The Environmental Protection Agency in April 2023 proposed requiring a 56% reduction in new vehicle emissions by 2032. Under the initial EPA proposal covering 2027-2032, automakers were expected to aim for EVs to constitute 60% of their new vehicle production by 2030 and 67% by 2032 to meet stricter emissions requirements.
White House climate adviser Ali Zaidi, who has held talks with automakers on tailpipe rules, said in a statement Sunday the United States is "harnessing the power of smart investments (ESG) and standards to ensure U.S. workers will lead, not follow, the global auto sector."
The EPA is also expected to address other concerns raised by automakers including a proposal to drastically reduce particulate matter from gas-powered vehicles, which the industry has argued would effectively require gasoline particulate filters on every gas-powered vehicle.
https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...es-2024-02-18/

Translation: It's election year and we need to stay in power and as soon as we win, we will replace our boot on the throats of the auto companies and force our EV dreams on everyone.
Not a done deal.
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Light weight for sport cars are history. The new tread for BMW is build it as heavy as it can. The 2025 BMW hybrid M5 will weight 5368 lbs. Adding mass to the cars will affects everything negatively from handling to braking.....

At what point will BMW think they are getting stupid !!!

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America's EV boom goes bust! Lithium and nickel producers begin mass layoffs and pause multi-billion-dollar projects as US says no to electric car push.


Car buyers are still reluctant to trade in their gas-guzzling vehicle for an EV over the high price tag and concerns about their ability to easily charge the vehicle.

The waning interest in EVs has caused the price of lithium to dropped by 90 percent since January of last year.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...roduction.html
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I thought my post was fairly funny.
Sure . Your post was funny . But for the Tesla-Submarine it wasn't funny . Too bad !

Hopefully your Tesla can't swim

I mean...Keep yours dry and cool my friend !
And enjoy it in good health ..
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