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      02-06-2020, 09:29 PM   #7173
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I think he's fashioning himself to be the next John McCain. Not the war hero part, but the backbone part. Do what's right for the country, not just for your party.
McCain was a war monger who would have nuked Greenland every Monday and invaded Antarctica twice a year if he'd had his way. Romney isn't even worth my keystrokes.
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McCain was a war monger who would have nuked Greenland every Monday and invaded Antarctica twice a year if he'd had his way. Romney isn't even worth my keystrokes.
Had he won the presidency in 2008, would you still feel the same? Would you have voted for Obama instead, given your negative view on McCain?
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McCain was a war monger who would have nuked Greenland every Monday and invaded Antarctica twice a year if he'd had his way.
No no no... That was only when he was running against a Democrat. Don't forget he was also racist and not capable however once he was no longer running against BO or opposing the left he was a "HERO" and a "true leader".
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Had he won the presidency in 2008, would you still feel the same? Would you have voted for Obama instead, given your negative view on McCain?
I did vote for Obama. He was the lesser of two evils.
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No no no... That was only when he was running against a Democrat. Don't forget he was also racist and not capable however once he was no longer running against BO or opposing the left he was a "HERO" and a "true leader".
I don't recall any of that. I remember most of the focus being on his insanely poor choice for VP.
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I don't recall any of that. I remember most of the focus being on his insanely poor choice for VP.
The worst VP candidate choice ever. She must have had loads of compromising photos stashed away in safe deposit boxes.
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I don't recall any of that. I remember most of the focus being on his insanely poor choice for VP.
That was clearly an attempt to get female voters and or younger voters.
There was absolutely no other reason or any compelling reason for SP to be his running mate.


War Monger:
https://www.economist.com/united-sta...r-or-warmonger

https://latimesblogs.latimes.com/was...maschultz.html

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...is-a-warmonger

https://www.laweekly.com/the-unlikel...ick-warmonger/





Racist / Racism:
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...n-obama-racism

https://www.teenvogue.com/story/5-pr...er-in-politics

https://www.sfgate.com/politics/arti...ep-3304741.php

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/03/opini...-wu/index.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2000/03/05/w...forgotten.html

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...ight-lose.html

NYT Then:
“Senator John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin have been running one of the most appalling campaigns we can remember,” the Tuesday editorial said. “They have gone far beyond the usual fare of quotes taken out of context and distortions of an opponent’s record — into the dark territory of race-baiting and xenophobia. Senator Barack Obama has taken some cheap shots at Mr. McCain, but there is no comparison.”

The same outlet had qualms about his stance on "torture" and ethics. they wouldn't even run his op-ed:

https://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/21/mccain.op.ed/

NYT Now:
"War Hero"
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/25/o...cain-dead.html

https://felleisen.org/matthias/Articles/nyt.html
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The worst VP candidate choice ever. She must have had loads of compromising photos stashed away in safe deposit boxes.
wanted that woman vote.

and McCain was so old, they wanted a young vp in there too.
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^Bingo. It was a "Hail Mary" play to rope in any undecided voters, young voters or women. I believe they shot themselves in the foot with it. Similar to MR picking PR as his VP. Anyone else could have helped his case over PR.
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That was clearly an attempt to get female voters and or younger voters.
There was absolutely no other reason or any compelling reason for SP to be his running mate.


War Monger:
https://www.economist.com/united-sta...r-or-warmonger

https://latimesblogs.latimes.com/was...maschultz.html

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...is-a-warmonger

https://www.laweekly.com/the-unlikel...ick-warmonger/





Racist / Racism:
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...n-obama-racism

https://www.teenvogue.com/story/5-pr...er-in-politics

https://www.sfgate.com/politics/arti...ep-3304741.php

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/03/opini...-wu/index.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2000/03/05/w...forgotten.html

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...ight-lose.html

NYT Then:
“Senator John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin have been running one of the most appalling campaigns we can remember,” the Tuesday editorial said. “They have gone far beyond the usual fare of quotes taken out of context and distortions of an opponent’s record — into the dark territory of race-baiting and xenophobia. Senator Barack Obama has taken some cheap shots at Mr. McCain, but there is no comparison.”

The same outlet had qualms about his stance on "torture" and ethics. they wouldn't even run his op-ed:

https://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/21/mccain.op.ed/

NYT Now:
"War Hero"
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/25/o...cain-dead.html

https://felleisen.org/matthias/Articles/nyt.html
Thanks for putting that together. I don't understand how the man is so revered. If he hadn't been a POW I don't think we would have ever heard of him.
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No worries, as I said before I don't identify with either party and not a fan of most politicians but what I dislike even more is the selective reporting, the change of opinion and hypocrisy. Chuck was against the term "Undocumented" but now uses. Chuck was for deportation now against it. BO holds the high water mark for record deportation along with detainment and it wasn't "racist" or "xenophobic".






Even something as petty as fashion... NYT fashion critic praises HRC bashes TG yet now every woman in congress wears a white pant suit to SOTU to honor suffrage movement. Voices should be heard except if it's against a dead celebrity or if you're Juanita Broaddrick. Media and Social Media turns a blind eye to black-face for certain individuals but is outraged with others. WTF?



You see it happening now with Kobe... Rape and cheating being smudged from headlines and reporters can't even bring it up without the Twittersphere going bonkers.
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No worries, as I said before I don't identify with either party and not a fan of most politicians but what I dislike even more is the selective reporting, the change of opinion and hypocrisy. Chuck was against the term "Undocumented" but now uses. Chuck was for deportation now against it. BO holds the high water mark for record deportation along with detainment and it wasn't "racist" or "xenophobic".






Even something as petty as fashion... NYT fashion critic praises HRC bashes TG yet now every woman in congress wears a white pant suit to SOTU to honor suffrage movement. Voices should be heard except if it's against a dead celebrity or if you're Juanita Broaddrick. WTF?



You see it happening now with Kobe... Rape and cheating being smudged from headlines and reporters can't even bring it up without the Twittersphere going bonkers.
its because they have a narrative to push that gets clicks. once that narrative no longer gets clicks, they move on to the next one.
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It appears every victim should be heard unless it's Juanita Broaddrick. Black Face is appalling and individuals should lose their jobs for it except if it's their team doing it. I just want some consistency. If it is wrong for one it should be wrong for all. If it is offensive when one person does it then it should be offensive when all parties do it. They cannot cherry pick what is offensive or which victims should be heard.
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^Bingo. It was a "Hail Mary" play to rope in any undecided voters, young voters or women. I believe they shot themselves in the foot with it. Similar to MR picking PR as his VP. Anyone else could have helped his case over PR.
That was the case for me. I went to early voting with a couple of friends. There was still about a 30 min wait to vote. I thought about voting for someone that pulled such a pandering stunt and said f-it and went home.
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It appears every victim should be heard unless it's Juanita Broaddrick. Black Face is appalling and individuals should lose their jobs for it except if it's their team doing it. I just want some consistency. If it is wrong for one it should be wrong for all. If it is offensive when one person does it then it should be offensive when all parties do it. They cannot cherry pick what is offensive or which victims should be heard.
iconoclast Great posts - thank you! Yeah, hypocrisy is intolerable. If someone actually changes their stance on something, great! I've changed my mind on a lot of issues. But you have to be transparent about it.
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Exactly. Everyone is entitled to change their mind. Opinions or beliefs I had ten or fifteen years ago are a bit different now. Circumstance also change people; becoming parents, losing someone, financial situations, illness/medical issues etc. but when you do a complete aboutface in a short period of time it makes me think you are not credible or your loyalty is to a check because you're not saying or writing what you actually feel or believe. Again, I am saying this for both parties, all media outlets, all of social media and just plain ol' citizens like us. This is not directed at any specific person or party. I would love to see a leveled and consistent playing field but at this time it is not very likely and doesn't benefit the powers that be who are in power or want to be in power.
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Exactly. Everyone is entitled to change their mind. Opinions or beliefs I had ten or fifteen years ago are a bit different now. Circumstance also change people; becoming parents, losing someone, financial situations, illness/medical issues etc. but when you do a complete aboutface in a short period of time it makes me think you are not credible or your loyalty is to a check because you're not saying or writing what you actually feel or believe. Again, I am saying this for both parties, all media outlets, all of social media and just plain ol' citizens like us. This is not directed at any specific person or party. I would love to see a leveled and consistent playing field but at this time it is not very likely and doesn't benefit the powers that be who are in power or want to be in power.
Agree 100%. No slice of the political spectrum has a monopoly on hypocrisy and inauthenticity. They're all whores, frankly. As are the media, for the most part.
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its because they have a narrative to push that gets clicks. once that narrative no longer gets clicks, they move on to the next one.
Because fuck real investigative journalism, neutrality and on-the-ground reporting.

The Wapo is garbage.
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Because fuck real investigative journalism, neutrality and on-the-ground reporting.

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