hating my M.....

AtoB · 05-21-2010, 08:28 AM

i think i got it.... and that is recorded with the hood up and me standing in front of the car about a foot back...

thekurgan · 05-21-2010, 08:35 AM

^ that almost sounds exhaust related, definitely not normal.

AtoB · 05-21-2010, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by thekurgan

^ that almost sounds exhaust related, definitely not normal.

how do you mean 'exhaust related'?
i have a remus exhaust on the car... believe me, that noise is all engine.. left side... "tap, tap, tap..."

Hughbert · 05-21-2010, 08:46 AM

If you took the car sounding like that to a dealer and they told you it was the normal S54 Vanos rattle then they are full of scheiss - definitely take it somewhere else. I hope it turns out to be minor and you can get back to enjoying the car.

Troubling - this problem, the vanos cam screw and a couple of rear main seal leaks.

AtoB · 05-21-2010, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Hughbert

If you took the car sounding like that to a dealer and they told you it was the normal S54 Vanos rattle then they are full of scheiss - definitely take it somewhere else. I hope it turns out to be minor and you can get back to enjoying the car.

Troubling - this problem, the vanos cam screw and a couple of rear main seal leaks.

it wasn't this loud when i took it in last... i'm hoping for the best

Hawkeye · 05-21-2010, 08:51 AM

Good luck!

dekaliber · 05-21-2010, 09:56 AM

Whoa, definitely not what my car sounds like.

Could be belts/pulleys too?

AtoB · 05-21-2010, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dekaliber

Whoa, definitely not what my car sounds like.

Could be belts/pulleys too?

yup... neither did mine a few weeks ago... now i'm driving chitty-chitty bang-bang.

inTgr8r · 05-21-2010, 10:02 AM

wow... I can't believe they would try to pass that off as normal.

thekurgan · 05-21-2010, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by AtoB

how do you mean 'exhaust related'?
i have a remus exhaust on the car... believe me, that noise is all engine.. left side... "tap, tap, tap..."

Could be the audio quality, but it has some sort of an exhaust, low frequency sound. Not sure if it's VANOS, I haven't heard that active at idle speed. They need to get it fixed regardless.

krnnerdboy · 05-21-2010, 10:23 AM

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The Boxster S is a nice option for sure....

you'd be giving up your vanos issues for bearing issues though

The low tech ls3 motor sounds pretty tempting

Blind32 · 05-21-2010, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by AtoB

i think i got it.... and that is recorded with the hood up and me standing in front of the car about a foot back...

Sounds like a diesel....

JK

But seriously, that doesn't sound normal at all.

mousitch · 05-21-2010, 11:33 AM

Have you tried to get warranty service at an independent BMW shop? Sometimes that will work if they find a problem and call BMW NA.

AtoB · 05-21-2010, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by mousitch

Have you tried to get warranty service at an independent BMW shop? Sometimes that will work if they find a problem and call BMW NA.

not yet. but if they tell me it's normal... i am going to tell them to back their words up and take it in on trade for a boxster S... should be interesting

mousitch · 05-21-2010, 12:19 PM

Sounds like the emissions control pump that plugs in on top of the heat shield and connects to a hose on the passenger fender well. When I had mine off to check headers for leaks this it what it sounded like. Look for a hole in the hose or a gasket leak around part #08 valve. The valve is held on to the cylinder head by two 10 mm nuts that might be loose right above a notch in the heat shield.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...66&hg=11&fg=50

Z3Z4MC · 05-21-2010, 12:59 PM

Do you notice decrease in power? If so, you should look into doing a leak down test on the motor. Definitely sounds like something wrong with the motor.

pokeybritches · 05-21-2010, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by shift@red

Do you have some personal vendetta against Porsche, or have you just been burned by too many on the track and back roads??
Boxster S owns the Z4MR (especially the current generation) any day of the week...and this is coming from someone who owned a Z4MR.

Sorry to hear about you problem bro...if they refuse to fix it, i would take it up with BMW north america and see if something more can be done. If not, boxster S will leave a bigger smile on you face all while leaving any z4mr in the dust.

You must've been smoked by a Boxster or two. Yes, the newest 2010 Boxster S may beat my '06 MR, but a Z4M in the hands of a skilled driver will dust any of the previous Boxster S models. I don't even think the former Boxsters had the factory option of a limited slip.

http://www.fastestlaps.com/track1.html #59, #91

http://www.fastestlaps.com/track11.html #28, #39

http://www.fastestlaps.com/track106.html #13, #24

I hope your car gets fixed. Keep trying different dealers!

AtoB · 05-21-2010, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Z3Z4MC

Do you notice decrease in power? If so, you should look into doing a leak down test on the motor. Definitely sounds like something wrong with the motor.

no, car feels the same.

shitbrownMcoupe · 05-21-2010, 03:52 PM

why would you even talk about the P Boxter, they're not really Porsches.

If I was to get a sports car, I'd get the mid to top line for that brand.

BMW M, definitely a ZM or a M3.
Porsche, at least a C2, not some rich lady boxter... nor the cayman.

Doesn't matter if the Boxter can beat the Z4M or vice versa, it's a Boxter, never would even look at one on the road haha, in fact I'd look away. And a Z4M, modded nicely, that's heaven

Sorry to offened Boxter or Cayman owners out there... but they are fugly cars hahah... which part is the front and rear?

I have a Cayenne S, and I just tell people I have an SUV....

shitbrownMcoupe · 05-21-2010, 03:53 PM

It gives an impression like, you wanna own a porsche but you can't afford one... like I said, unless you're a rich lady walking out of those types of cars... then it's ok...

Z3Z4MC · 05-21-2010, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AtoB

no, car feels the same.

Even if the dealership still can't find anything wrong, and if you truly want to keep the Z4M, I would at least take it to an independent shop to see what they can find. Just because it's a BMW dealership does not mean they always know what the hell they're doing.

Most dealerships have only a few qualify techs on hand. The rest are just helpers, and code reader. Anyway GL.

p.s. If you're going to trade it in for a P-car, at least go with the Cayman S. There is something gay about a Boxster.

AtoB · 05-21-2010, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Z3Z4MC

Even if the dealership still can't find anything wrong, and if you truly want to keep the Z4M, I would at least take it to an independent shop to see what they can find. Just because it's a BMW dealership does not mean they always know what the hell they're doing.

Most dealerships have only a few qualify techs on hand. The rest are just helpers, and code reader. Anyway GL.

p.s. If you're going to trade it in for a P-car, at least go with the Cayman S. There is something gay about a Boxster.

LOL... i'm a convertible kind of guy... could never do a fixed roof. not a whole lot of options out there for me... i like them with two seats only...
my buddy has been working for BMW for nearly 20 years... he knows his stuff, a real BMW nerd of sorts. i totally trust him. worst case, i might take it to an independent... there are a few good ones close buy.

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