###___Z4 COUPE Spoiler Poll___###

m5m3mc · 07-31-2017, 02:16 PM

The design aesthetic in general is terrific. My personal concern lies both in the length of the wrap-around element as well as the height, especially as seen in the second "rough fit" photo. I worry that there's insufficient muscularity in the body design to carry it off w/o veering into boy-racerish territory (at least for me). And the point made about rear view visibility potentially presents a practical issue re. both backing up and driving swiftly in traffic with overall awareness IMO. But so far, kudos for an incredible job with this project.

Shutterspeed · 08-01-2017, 10:36 AM

Why is everyone so dang worried about rear visibility lol.

inTgr8r · 08-01-2017, 10:46 AM

Exactly....
Most of us have to adjust the rear-view up to see down the road.
Its the top of the back window that's obstructed.

The HACK · 08-01-2017, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Shutterspeed

Why is everyone so dang worried about rear visibility lol.

IMO if there's ever a time to ask questions, it's now before it's produced. There's nothing wrong with a few devil's advocate if you ask me.

Personally I think whatever product comes to "market" will be 1,000x better than what we have NOW. And I've got $400 burning a hole in my pocket waiting for this.

But it won't be perfect. It's just the nature of things.

WickedNy · 08-02-2017, 05:30 AM

Rear visibility takes a backseat to aesthetics for me....in fact that was the main issue with the tekkarbon spoiler is that it's way too small and way too subtle.., this is exactly what was asked for

pcube · 08-02-2017, 06:55 AM

I had an AC Schnitzer rear wing, just removed it a couple of weeks ago. Difference in rear view visibility is completely unnoticeable. It will be the same for this design...

TurboDream17 · 08-02-2017, 09:02 AM

Hey all,

My apologies if I turned anybody off by bringing up the rear visibility. I just noticed that there was some test fitment going on, and was curious if anybody had looked in the rear view mirror during said fitment to get an idea of how much rear visibility was lost.

As many have said, the rear visibility with these cars is already poor, and blocking said visibility may actually help in the sense that it will keep trucks headlights out of your eyes, etc.

There's nothing wrong with the way this wing is being designed -- it's exactly what many people have been asking for, but it's still helpful to consider something like rear visibility so people can make as informed a decision about the product as possible

mainsoda · 08-02-2017, 09:50 AM

Having poor rear visibility is the hallmark of any fine sports car!

Eleanor · 08-04-2017, 11:51 AM

[QUOTE=m5m3mc;22013466]The design aesthetic in general is terrific. My personal concern lies both in the length of the wrap-around element as well as the height, especially as seen in the second "rough fit" photo. I worry that there's insufficient muscularity in the body design to carry it off w/o veering into boy-racerish territory (at least for me).

Like mentioned before, the design is already much nicer compared to what's out there so far and will most likely end up as a fantastic piece for the Z.

But i agree about the lateral length of the spoiler. I tried to visualise it comparing the connecting points seen in the pictures with the lines on my own car.
The spoiler wraps around the sides so far that i fear it will dominate the silhouette of the back too much. I'm fine with the height, but the side dimensions should orientate more on the current m4 spoiler design imo

coh661 · 08-04-2017, 12:01 PM

[QUOTE=Eleanor;22031902]

Quote:

Originally Posted by m5m3mc

The design aesthetic in general is terrific. My personal concern lies both in the length of the wrap-around element as well as the height, especially as seen in the second "rough fit" photo. I worry that there's insufficient muscularity in the body design to carry it off w/o veering into boy-racerish territory (at least for me).

Like mentioned before, the design is already much nicer compared to what's out there so far and will most likely end up as a fantastic piece for the Z.

But i agree about the lateral length of the spoiler. I tried to visualise it comparing the connecting points seen in the pictures with the lines on my own car.
The spoiler wraps around the sides so far that i fear it will dominate the silhouette of the back too much. I'm fine with the height, but the side dimensions should orientate more on the current m4 spoiler design imo

Here's a top down view of the CAD that the design was based on. I don't think the wrap around will be excessive.

Eleanor · 08-04-2017, 01:06 PM

[QUOTE=milamookie;22031962]

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Originally Posted by Eleanor

Here's a top down view of the CAD that the design was based on. I don't think the wrap around will excessive.

You are right, it looks much more subtle in the cad version

WickedNy · 08-04-2017, 03:41 PM

I get so excited every time i see this thread updated

Eleanor · 08-04-2017, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by WickedNy

I get so excited every time i see this thread updated

Same here !!

Got the tab pinned on my browser always ready to check^^

Shutterspeed · 08-07-2017, 11:08 PM

Bump. Any updates?

nate96 · 08-08-2017, 11:55 AM

Looking forward to seeing this!

Jackal · 08-16-2017, 11:45 AM

Hi all, just bumping to see if there has been any progress. I'm pretty excited to see what the project will look like. Seems that Nate and I can even split some shipping.

ZeD4Mr · 08-16-2017, 11:58 AM

I happy to report the first piece is out and I'm waiting for some pictures to be sent to me. I'll post as soon as I get them and start the GB shortly after that.

.

Eleanor · 08-16-2017, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeD4Mr

I happy to report the first piece is out and I'm waiting for some pictures to be sent to me. I'll post as soon as I get them and start the GB shortly after that.

.

BRING IT ON

AriuSen · 08-17-2017, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Shutterspeed

Why is everyone so dang worried about rear visibility lol.

Word :

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Great job guys who made this come true!!

AriuSen · 08-17-2017, 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboDream17

Hey all,

My apologies if I turned anybody off by bringing up the rear visibility. I just noticed that there was some test fitment going on, and was curious if anybody had looked in the rear view mirror during said fitment to get an idea of how much rear visibility was lost.

As many have said, the rear visibility with these cars is already poor, and blocking said visibility may actually help in the sense that it will keep trucks headlights out of your eyes, etc.

There's nothing wrong with the way this wing is being designed -- it's exactly what many people have been asking for, but it's still helpful to consider something like rear visibility so people can make as informed a decision about the product as possible

I think you should just get the tekarbon microscopic spoiler.

WickedNy · 08-17-2017, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AriuSen

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboDream17

Hey all,

My apologies if I turned anybody off by bringing up the rear visibility. I just noticed that there was some test fitment going on, and was curious if anybody had looked in the rear view mirror during said fitment to get an idea of how much rear visibility was lost.

As many have said, the rear visibility with these cars is already poor, and blocking said visibility may actually help in the sense that it will keep trucks headlights out of your eyes, etc.

There's nothing wrong with the way this wing is being designed -- it's exactly what many people have been asking for, but it's still helpful to consider something like rear visibility so people can make as informed a decision about the product as possible

I think you should just get the tekarbon microscopic spoiler.

Willing to sell mine at a huge fraction of cost.....pay shipping and keep it

Jackal · 08-17-2017, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AriuSen

I think you should just get the tekarbon microscopic spoiler.

That's the one I currently have. I'd be willing to part with it once this group by comes through.

View Poll Results: Which spoiler style would you most likely to see produced first? One vote each.
Curve top side High Kick style with Overhang	2	4.76%
Gradual Sloppy top side style with Overhang (M4-ish)	18	42.86%
Curve top side High Kick style that Sit flush on top (M3-ish)	2	4.76%
Gradual Sloppy top side style Sits flush on top (Viper-ish)	19	45.24%
Any Other suggestion, please comment in your post	1	2.38%
Voters: 42. You may not vote on this poll

07-31-2017, 02:16 PM	#111
m5m3mc Private First Class 16 Rep 114 Posts Drives: M-B C63 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North America iTrader: (0)	The design aesthetic in general is terrific. My personal concern lies both in the length of the wrap-around element as well as the height, especially as seen in the second "rough fit" photo. I worry that there's insufficient muscularity in the body design to carry it off w/o veering into boy-racerish territory (at least for me). And the point made about rear view visibility potentially presents a practical issue re. both backing up and driving swiftly in traffic with overall awareness IMO. But so far, kudos for an incredible job with this project.
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08-01-2017, 10:36 AM	#112
Shutterspeed Second Lieutenant 80 Rep 270 Posts Drives: 2008 Z4 M Coupe Join Date: May 2016 Location: New Orleans iTrader: (2)	Why is everyone so dang worried about rear visibility lol.
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08-01-2017, 10:46 AM	#113
inTgr8r Lieutenant General 2452 Rep 11,667 Posts Drives: M2 Comp Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Toronto iTrader: (10)	Exactly.... Most of us have to adjust the rear-view up to see down the road. Its the top of the back window that's obstructed. __________________ '21 M2C Hockenheim Silver '18 718 Cayman S Lava Orange (sold) '13 E92 M3 Santorini Blue (sold) '07 Z4 M Coupe Alpine White (sold)
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08-02-2017, 05:30 AM	#115
WickedNy Get Some 226 Rep 759 Posts Drives: 07 Z4 3.0si Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Long Island iTrader: (1) Garage List 07 z4 3.0si [0.00]	Rear visibility takes a backseat to aesthetics for me....in fact that was the main issue with the tekkarbon spoiler is that it's way too small and way too subtle.., this is exactly what was asked for
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08-02-2017, 06:55 AM	#116
pcube Private First Class 58 Rep 199 Posts Drives: Z4MC, G20 320i Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Singapore iTrader: (0)	I had an AC Schnitzer rear wing, just removed it a couple of weeks ago. Difference in rear view visibility is completely unnoticeable. It will be the same for this design...
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08-02-2017, 09:02 AM	#117
TurboDream17 ///M Enthusiast 52 Rep 113 Posts Drives: '07 Z4M Coupe Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: San Diego, CA iTrader: (0)	Hey all, My apologies if I turned anybody off by bringing up the rear visibility. I just noticed that there was some test fitment going on, and was curious if anybody had looked in the rear view mirror during said fitment to get an idea of how much rear visibility was lost. As many have said, the rear visibility with these cars is already poor, and blocking said visibility may actually help in the sense that it will keep trucks headlights out of your eyes, etc. There's nothing wrong with the way this wing is being designed -- it's exactly what many people have been asking for, but it's still helpful to consider something like rear visibility so people can make as informed a decision about the product as possible __________________ ///M Coupe - Volk TE37's 19x10.5R +22 19x8.5F +30 \| KW V3 w/ Clubsport rear springs \| RPi exhaust \| Autosolutions SSK \| RE transmission mounts \| RE RSM's \| Vibra-Technics engine mounts \| RPi scoop \| RPi skid plates \| Tekarbon spoiler \| Apex wheel studs \| Blox burnt titanium lug nuts \| UUC Front 27mm Swaybarbarian \| Status Gruppe adjustable front links \| EAS Blacked out kidneys \| Full Beisan Vanos Refresh
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08-02-2017, 09:50 AM	#118
mainsoda Private First Class 172 Rep 150 Posts Drives: 2006 BMW Z4M coupe Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Milwaukee WI iTrader: (0)	Having poor rear visibility is the hallmark of any fine sports car!
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08-04-2017, 11:51 AM	#119
Eleanor Enlisted Member 14 Rep 46 Posts Drives: BMW Z4M E86 COUPE Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Munich, Germany iTrader: (0)	[QUOTE=m5m3mc;22013466]The design aesthetic in general is terrific. My personal concern lies both in the length of the wrap-around element as well as the height, especially as seen in the second "rough fit" photo. I worry that there's insufficient muscularity in the body design to carry it off w/o veering into boy-racerish territory (at least for me). Like mentioned before, the design is already much nicer compared to what's out there so far and will most likely end up as a fantastic piece for the Z. But i agree about the lateral length of the spoiler. I tried to visualise it comparing the connecting points seen in the pictures with the lines on my own car. The spoiler wraps around the sides so far that i fear it will dominate the silhouette of the back too much. I'm fine with the height, but the side dimensions should orientate more on the current m4 spoiler design imo
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08-04-2017, 03:41 PM	#122
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08-07-2017, 11:08 PM	#124
Shutterspeed Second Lieutenant 80 Rep 270 Posts Drives: 2008 Z4 M Coupe Join Date: May 2016 Location: New Orleans iTrader: (2)	Bump. Any updates? __________________ 2008 BMW Z4M Coupe (BLTZKRG) 2013 Scion FRS (Kamikze) Sold
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08-08-2017, 11:55 AM	#125
nate96 Second Lieutenant 51 Rep 210 Posts Drives: TI Silver 06 Z4 Coupe Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada iTrader: (0)	Looking forward to seeing this! __________________
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08-16-2017, 11:45 AM	#126
Jackal Private First Class 33 Rep 142 Posts Drives: 2006 Z4MC (Bianca) Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Calgary Canada iTrader: (0)	Hi all, just bumping to see if there has been any progress. I'm pretty excited to see what the project will look like. Seems that Nate and I can even split some shipping. __________________ Light a man a fire, you keep him warm for a night. Light a man ON fire,you keep him warm the rest of his life.
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08-16-2017, 11:58 AM	#127
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