Future BMW models information

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by JSokoll

Regarding the 7series LCI. Can we expect 800V and Neue Klasse battery technology for i7?

No.

[DDS2015]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

No.

When are the M8 convertibles out of production?

[adski]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

No.

can we expect neue klasse battery&800v on i5 LCI?

[azuki]

any chance of new colors for G42/m240i

[Erebor]

Originally Posted by adski

can we expect neue klasse battery&800v on i5 LCI?

Also no.

[adski]

Originally Posted by Erebor

Also no.

seems strange, there were multiple rumors about the adoption of Gen6 powertrain.
maybe ynguldyn can confirm or not

[ubercruise]

Originally Posted by adski

seems strange, there were multiple rumors about the adoption of Gen6 bowertrain.
maybe ynguldyn can confirm or not

Not for LCI I don't think

[BMW Kayto]

Who is going to buy a BMW i5 with outdated battery generation and only 400V? Nobody.

I am very interested to know what BMW has planned for the upcoming i5 LCI. They will change the design to match the "Neue Klasse" front and they will also implement Panoramic Vision. It would seem strange if they stop there and do not upgrade the battery. But also the G60 is not "Neue Klasse" and the new batteries might not fit.

[W2k]

Originally Posted by BMW Kayto

Who is going to buy a BMW i5 with outdated battery generation and only 400V? Nobody.

Friend, normie car buyers barely knew the difference between an I6 and a V8 before, do you think they're going to be bothered about the details of different battery chemistries or electrical system voltages?

The 800V platform will charge a bit faster and go a bit further, and the platform after that will be even better, but we are already well past the stage of "good enough" and improvements past this point are incremental.

400V/800V translates to saving maybe five minutes charging 10-80% in practice. This is not a dealbreaker for people who aren't EV savvy. Hell, I'm pretty EV savvy, and it wasn't one for me.

[adski]

Originally Posted by W2k

Friend, normie car buyers barely knew the difference between an I6 and a V8 before, do you think they're going to be bothered about the details of different battery chemistries or electrical system voltages?

The 800V platform will charge a bit faster and go a bit further, and the platform after that will be even better, but we are already well past the stage of "good enough" and improvements past this point are incremental.

400V/800V translates to saving maybe five minutes charging 10-80% in practice. This is not a dealbreaker for people who aren't EV savvy. Hell, I'm pretty EV savvy, and it wasn't one for me.

yes exactly and I add the description that paultan.org did on the launch of the i5

Also new for BMW’s latest EV is Max Performance Charging. Not related to the maximum charging rate, MPC smoothens out the drop off in charging power (typical pattern shoots up to max upon plug-in before reducing gradually), which used to be stepped, like in the iX. Starting off at full charging power is also applicable at higher SOCs, and not just when near empty. These characteristics help you to get more juice in, more quickly. The i5’s architecture is 400V, but with MPC, charging performance is ahead of 400V rivals and gets close to 800V levels, BMW says.

[BMW Kayto]

Since i work at a BMW dealership and talk to a lot of customers, i can tell you from my experience that this issue came up quite often in the recent weeks.
Yesterday an elderly couple even considered to buy the new CLA instead of the BMW i4 because of the old tech inside the BMW.

Well this experience does not mean that everybody thinks that way but there are certainly people who think twice before buying an EV car. Especially if they fear they wont get that much back when they try to sell it a few years later.

[W2k]

Originally Posted by BMW Kayto

Since i work at a BMW dealership and talk to a lot of customers, i can tell you from my experience that this issue came up quite often in the recent weeks.
Yesterday an elderly couple even considered to buy the new CLA instead of the BMW i4 because of the old tech inside the BMW.

I could be wrong, of course, but I think a lot of the people considering a BEV now still think of it as "new tech" and so they've done a bit more reading than usual, or they've asked a savvy friend about it. We're somewhere in-between the early adopter and the mass market stage.

Off-topic but regarding the CLA, I hope you told them that if they want a CLA that can actually use most charging stations, they have to wait until 2026.

[BMW Kayto]

Oh, thank you for the news article. Ineed I was not aware of that. I told them to literally not buy an EV but rather lease for 2 or 3 years and wait for the Neue Klasse. With that tactic they do not need to sell their car, they just give it back to the BMW bank.

ButI told them that Mercedes EVs look like a piece of soap and the i4 Gran Coupé is far better looking

[Sudtirol]

ynguldyn I know you said no carbon fiber roof for electric M3 but the Nurburgring shots show a double bubble roof / concave roof channel which is probably not possible with glass and does not appear to be camouflage. Do you think it'll be a "natural fiber" roof after all?

[Spectremotorsports]

Since there are no answers to any of the 8 series questions I've scrolled through I think it's safe to assume it's dead at this point.

Real bummer as I'm struggling to find an enticing replacement for mine. but if it existed we would have seen a prototype by now. AMG GT it is I suppose.

[javapro]

Originally Posted by Spectremotorsports

Since there are no answers to any of the 8 series questions I've scrolled through I think it's safe to assume it's dead at this point.

Real bummer as I'm struggling to find an enticing replacement for mine. but if it existed we would have seen a prototype by now. AMG GT it is I suppose.

It’s been known for a while that 8 series will be discontinued at the end of this year/beginning of next year just like Z4. This is why BMW never even bothered to upgrade both of these models to iDrive 8. As per the first post here 8 series end of production dates are

F91 (non-US) - 09/25
F91(US)/F92/F93 8/M8 - 10/25
G02 X4 - 11/25
G14/G15/G16 8 - 04/26 (840d - 09/25)

[mbanck]

Originally Posted by bimmer813

Any word on G97 X3M? I feel like we haven’t even seen spy shots of that car, was very much looking forward to it as the ultimate daily driver.

The top post still says "There will still be X3M (G97)", but I think at this point we can assume this will not happen? I think hb confirmed multiple times (e.g. here) that BMW has no (current) plans to build one?

Also, what about the iX3 M60 power figures? You mentioned earlier (and corrected yourself) that the (i)X3 M would have the same power figures, where those relative (two variables looking identical, but absolute values unknown) or do you know them already? I couldn't find them in the top post.

[ynguldyn]

ZA5 X3 M starts production in 11/27.

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by mbanck

The top post still says "There will still be X3M (G97)", but I think at this point we can assume this will not happen? I think hb confirmed multiple times (e.g. here) that BMW has no (current) plans to build one?

Looks like it. They gave it a platform code but never made the actual car.

[Erebor]

ynguldyn any info on when communication starts for the final edition G29 Z4?

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by Erebor

ynguldyn any info on when communication starts for the final edition G29 Z4?

I'm not a communications person. But given the timeline I'd expect first weeks of 2026 (big question mark).

[Erebor]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

I'm not a communications person. But given the timeline I'd expect first weeks of 2026 (big question mark).

That would be my guess aswell. If it starts around March, then early 2026 is a good time.