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12-23-2016, 10:34 AM | #1 |
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Coupe vs Roadster. An M3 owner's dilemma
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I know this has probably been debated over a million times, but let's keep this one fun. I currently own an E36 M3 and an E92 M3 and love them dearly, with no plans to ever sell them. If you know me from the other subforums, you would have noticed that I've been all over the place in terms of what to add next to complete the M collection. I went from an M2 to an M3, to an M3 CP, to an E46 M3 convertible, and now I'm really debating going with a Z4M next summer/fall. My question is, what would YOU add if you were in my shoes. Obviously, I know the final decision will be up to me, but I thought it would be cool what other members thought since this is such a tight knit community Here's what I came up with so far Z4M Roadster: +Cheaper to buy than coupe +Wind in hair, S54 in ear -More maintenance with the top -Not as rigid as Coupe Z4M Coupe +One of my favorite side profiles +Value will seriously appreciate sooner than later -More expensive to buy Looking forward to chat with you guys. Happy Holidays to everyone E36 with E92...M Power by ADM5 Photography, on Flickr
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12-23-2016, 10:46 AM | #2 |
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If I was in your shoes, I'd get the Z4M Coupe. Can't beat that profile. For wind in the hair, I'd sell the E36 M3 sedan and replace it with a convertible.
But that's just me....
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It really depends on your needs or desires with the car. I honestly believe both the coupe and roadster will eventually be sought after - both were relatively low volume vehicles that embodied "///M" and perhaps were the last two true ///M cars.
Seeing that you considered the E46 M3 convertible, it seems the added rigidity of the Z4MC wouldn't be an important factor. The E46 M3 convertible's rigidity was an issue, whereas the Z4MR is only an 'con' relative to the Z4MC. The Z4MR was more structurally rigid than the E46 M3 Coupe. As significant as it seems between the coupe and roadster, both are incredibly stiff cars and the difference would likely only be noticed when pushed hard...I think. It comes down to your own preference. Is the top-down, wind in your hair feeling worth the added maintenance and loss of the profile you like with the coupe? And vice-versa, is the look worth the added cost and loss of the top-down option? Easiest way to avoid making that decision is to just get one of each, which is what I'd do If you only have space for one, I'd go Z4MC. I get the wind-in-my-hair feeling from a motorcycle, which is much more of a thrill.
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I'd love to have both, but maintaining 4 M cars would make me lose my sanity
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///M Roadster, simply no other choice for me. Don't worry about rigidity in the Roadster, it's an extremely rigid car and there is no sway in it. The Z4MC is nice of course, but it just doesn't grab my attention like the Z3MC did. I'd much rather have a Z3MC than a Z4MC, even though the Z4MC is a vastly superior car in every way but looks.
The Z4M Roadie is the best car I've ever owned (on my 2nd one now), and I plan on having it forever as long as costs don't become prohibitive. Nobody makes a car like this anymore, it's a very sad thing. |
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You've already got a couple coupes, and sounds like the weather is good where you live. Roadie would make a nice addition to the stable IMO. Top down driving is just too good
Get one with heated seats
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For the most part, coupe owners will say get the coupe, roadster owners will say to get the vert. Since the coupe has one of your favorite side profiles, just get it, don't worry about the higher cost, since as you said, the value will increase sooner than later.
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Given this would be your third ///M to maintain, the tiny bit more maintenance the convertible top requires shouldn't be an issue. Drain the water and apply a coating (Raggtopp or others) every once in a while. Z4MR takes less time to wax
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Z4MC for my two cents. Limited production numbers and when you throw in the options the uniqueness is clearly there. They are holding their value and some may argue the value is going up now. They are a rare car to see, where as the roadster seems to blend in with traffic.....again, just my two cents.
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There have been several Roady owners that end up selling and buying a coupe.
......can't think of any that went the other way. Just sayin.....
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Will you be tracking your car? Will extreme exclusivity trump over fun factor? Is rising in value a big factor in your decision? Coups are cool and roadies are fun.
I had E36MC and E46MC prior. That tech violet you have is beautiful. If I were you, I'd get a roadie. You don't have a convertible in your line up yet. Seems like you're missing S54 in your collection and you can get a hardtop for the roadster. Too me that the best of both world and I like the silloute of a hardster better. If it's me, I'll get a coupe since I already have a roadster. This chassis is simply amazing. If I have enough space, I'd get a coupe tomorrow.
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Yeah I can't recall any either. To be fair though, the first page of the classifieds section shows 7 Moupes and just 1 M roadie for sale. Maybe off-season for selling a vert, but point is people move on from both flavors of Z traitors lol
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I really wanted a vert since I live in California and can take advantage of the top-down life. There's something very special about open-top motoring, but I totally respect that it isn't for everyone. Also, after owning several convertibles I've learned that you really want to buy a purpose-built convertible (like the Z4) and not a car that started life as a coupe and got the roof cut off. Plus, I have to disagree that the cost difference is negligible. I've seen roadsters with 40k miles go for <$20k, that's a lot of car for the money.
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If I had only 1 choice, I'd definitely go with the M Coupe. But because I already have 2 coupes, I think that's where it makes more sense to go with the Roadster to have variety. It was 70F again yesterday, really unusual for Dec weather here, but I would have loved to have a convertible! Quote:
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Thanks to all that have replied! Very interesting.
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Oh, the fun of being connected to the elements with the top down....it rains on occasion in the Great Pacific Northwest, but still find mega-days for top down experiences....the ultimate is driving to Mt Rainier in the summer. Listening to the Rogue Engineering Diablo exhaust top down is the best.
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i would probably get a coupe if i could do it over again,I'm in Fl, so its sunny here ALL the time,plus hot as hell alot of that time.If i want to catch rays, i mow the lawn(lol)..That being said, i wouldn't sell my roady at this point.
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I used to get bored with cars quickly. Between 2003 - 2009, in a span of 6 full years, I had:
- '00 Z3 roadster 2.3i - '03 Z4 roadster 2.5i - '04 Z4 roadster 3.0i - '05 G35 coupe 6MT (huge mistake) - '06 Z4M roadster Then in mid 2009, I traded in my M roadster for an '08 Space Gray Z4M coupe. Best decision I ever made buying a car. 7.5 years and 100k miles later, I still get excited and it still feels special ever time I'm behind the wheel. I've just added an '16 Space Gray F80 M3, and I'll never sell the M coupe. Last edited by GP20; 12-25-2016 at 03:34 AM.. |
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All points are mostly covered at this point, but on stiffness, either car is stiffer than just about anything on the road up through exotics.
I'm a coupe owner (in a family with 2 coupes) and given your needs (no track, street, and several mentions of warm weather) why not go with the Roadie? Budget would leave room for a full suspension refresh, some S54 work, or a top. Yes, the coupe will probably appreciate faster, but unless you're a collector looking to make some money down the road, the roadie seems like it would give you a different experience from your other cars while retaining a high level of performance. (That's not something you can say about the E36 E46 vert, body flex, or E93--massive weight.) |
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Someone else compiled this torsional stiffness comparison, but backs up what Finnegan's stating. The Z4R is stiffer than a lot of hardtop coupes and sedans including BMW E46s (w folding seats). The Z3 by comparison is a wet noodle.
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