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Anyway, everyone could see that VER easily pulled away after the safetycar situation and then kept the gap constant. That means he could go faster than he was, and as he didn't he spared the equipment. If the tyres would have deterioared, it would have shown in his lap times, not in blowing up a tyre. You can also clearly see that after the crash, the surface of the tyres (the areas that weren't affected by the crash) still look in pretty good shape. This is clearly a structural problem and not a wear problem. That no one came in during safetycar is logical. At that time no one knew that it could be a structural problem. Hindsight 20/20 is always so easy, but if the crashed car is still on the track, no one knows anything. You have to take that into account. Only after VER crashed, again without any reason, the notion came that it could be a structural problem.
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RB/VER and the rest of the leaders gambled it wouldn't happen to them. As said, RB/VER lost on the gamble and that is racing. They got lucky HAM made a rare error and left with the best possible result after their DNF. And for the rest of us it is good because the WDC is so close for once. It would be cool if they both double DNF'd again and PER could sneak in and make it a three way battle. I know this most likely won't happen, but as a general fan of F1 it would be fun. Last edited by minn19; 06-07-2021 at 10:02 AM.. |
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I call hindsight 20/20
Also because none of the radio chatter points to this. Only after VER's crash the speculations came, and Horner himself said stuff over the radio And in what race recently were there random multiple tyre blowouts without tyres being worn to virtually 100%?
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yeah but those tyres were much more worn, and Isola (pirelli) said that there were punctures before the failure of the tyres (which didn't happen in baku, Horner explicitly said that, maybe because of this), so yes issues, but different.
However I think both happened with the hard tyres (the problems in the race at least). Coincidence or not? Pirelli says they changed the design of the internal structure after silverstone.
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Pirelli say debris likely cause of STR and VER crashes....
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...tO6YTz3Kq.html If this is true, this means the prior shunts that left a carbon fibre debris field on-track were most likely missed during cleanup by corner workers. Usually the corner workers are using brooms (archaic) and taking way too long (race delay) during a cleanup. Perhaps this is a better solution to ensure a more effective clean racing surface and a significant time saver if 3-4 of these were dispatched to a cleanup area: https://www.google.com/search?q=comm...73910203190390
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VER predicted yesterday that Pirelli would say that
But as Horner said, there were no prior vibrations or changes in pressure. You'd expect that if you'd hit debris about 5 sec earlier (Stroll's crash site) and subsequently have an exploding tyre. I'm sure Pirelli is getting to the bottom of this. Eventually (I'm sure they don't want another tyrecompetitor in F1 which could happen if enough teams press on this matter I reckon...)
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Horner is messing with the wrong guy still.. Wolff is one of the smartest leaders ever in paddock.. not this era one of the best ever.. intelligence wise, leading wise, and human side wise..
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I'm sorry but this is a poor decision considering they had information on STRs tire failure earlier. If I'm the TP, I dial it back and cruise across the line.
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At least the correct Red Bull driver won the race...I knew that Perez would have a super long pit stop to make sure he didn't come out ahead of Verstappen and Red Bull did exactly that.
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Lifting because of tyre degradation management or fuel management? Hell yeah but not because of an impending puncture. If they knew the tyre would blow up they would have retired the car but of course they had no clue. Very unfair to blame RB/Max for this. The fact that he set the FL is also no proof of him pushing - the fuel load simply got minimal towards the end of the race.
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Didn't you see his post here prior to the accident where he warned us about it going to happen? Oh wait... Bachelor's wives and maid's children are well taught I guess.
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