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      06-23-2022, 11:57 PM   #66
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Originally Posted by tranquility View Post
I dunno man, I have no idea why ppl like cars such as Camaro, Chargers, etc. Sure they have impressive HP numbers but those things are the size of tanks, even larger than many sedans, and probably heavier too. Not very sophisticated in looks or tech, just brutish. Crazily excessive.

Give me a MX-5 any day instead of those behemoths.
Apples and oranges. The Charger/Challenger is a 20+ year old platform with newer engines. Cool cars, but they're boats and with even the best drivers they struggle to put the power down. The Camaro rides on an incredibly well-engineered platform that can put down absolutely bonkers numbers in the hands of a competent driver. Is it a stunningly beautiful car? Not exactly. Is it a lightweight? No. Does it have the nicest interior? No. But if any automaker from Europe or Asia made a car like the current Camaro, at the same price with the same power, everyone would think it was one of the greatest sports cars ever.

To put in perspective how fast a modern Camaro is, look at Car and Driver's annual Lightning Lap. 2017 Camaro SS 1LE ran a 2:54.8, a 2012 Lexus LFA did 2:55.1. 2014 Ferrari F12 did a 2:50.8, 2015 Camaro Z/28 (previous gen) did 2:50.9. 2019 Camaro ZL1 1LE ran a 2:45.0. 2018 Ferrari 488 GTB ran a 2:45.1. These are monumentally fast cars for the money and don't get nearly the respect they deserve because they're just "muscle cars" in the eyes of many.
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