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      06-16-2016, 11:45 AM   #147
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Originally Posted by The HACK View Post
No. What is remarkable is a bunch of people who will never take BMW's M Performance schools b*tching and moaning about a waiver they have to sign and raising a stink about it, when they have zero clue and will NEVER attend the school anyway.

This is unrelated to a BMW event. I went to a Nissan launch party for one of their vehicles. I signed a similar waiver up front. I drove one of their SUVs on an off-road course and due to my inexperience with off-road driving, I broke not one, but TWO anti-roll bars. The language in the waiver is the same. They specify that YOU as the participant CAN be held responsible for damages.

Guess what? I paid exactly ZERO dollars for about $800 worth of damage in parts and maybe another $500 in labor.

ZERO.

Wanna know what happened after I broke that first anti-roll bar? They brought out another identical SUV for me to drive and I promptly broke the anti-roll bar on that SUV too, but at a different spot. That's when they kindly asked me to step out and try the SUV on the road course rather than the off-road course. At no point did they insinuate that I would have to pay out of pocket for any of the damages I caused on their vehicle, despite the waiver I signed up front explicitly stating that I CAN be held responsible.

You want to know what the repercussions was for the amount of damages I caused?

I never received another email from Nissan's promotional department about participating in their launch events. The few times after when I registered and signed up for other Nissan events I was very kindly declined and turned away.

That is what usually happens if and when sh*t hits the fan. Unless it's something really egregious and catastrophic, say, you act like a complete douche at one of the events held off site from Spartanburg, NC, say, at a historical venue like, oh, Laguna Seca and you went out on the first exercise and promptly Mustang Leaving Car Show'ed the car into a wall doing tens of thousands of dollars worth of damage. Even then, they'll probably just ask you to leave the premises or make you pay for the damage to the facilities, not ask you to pay for the car you crashed.

But they still put that thought in your head, that if you break it, you potentially have to pay it, because they don't want you to think it's free reign to act like you're driving a Porsche GT and go crash at every opportunity you get. Thus the waiver and the seed is planted in your head that you MAY be held liable. In all reality, you're not, not for honest mistakes or accidents. It's their little filter to weed out the ones that probably shouldn't be attending their M school anyway, because they're coming in EXPECTING to crash.

Frankly, if you go to one of these events like the M School afraid that you'd do hundreds or thousands of dollars of damages to their car, and that you'd be liable for it, then you're better off staying home anyway. So for you guys to sit here and continue this STUPID argument is asinine. None of you "omg BMW is going to make me pay WHEN I crash" should take the M School. Those that want, need, or choose to do so isn't going to let a little waiver stop them.

So quit your b*tching pansies.
You appear to lack the mental capacity required to understand the fundamental issue raised, but thanks for the almost interesting story of how you damaged a Nissan. I don't have any interest in trying to explain it to you or going another round of pointless debate. Hopefully you limit acting like an arrogant douche bag to your internet posts, although somehow I highly doubt it.
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