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      07-16-2013, 11:06 AM   #1
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How Many of You Actually Rotate Tires?

For those with a square setup, do you actually rotate or bother flipping asymmetrical tires?
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      07-16-2013, 11:39 AM   #2
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If I had a square set up with non-directional tires I would, I guess.
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Yes, on the track car every track day. But for the z4m with square set-up, I switch inside to out side rather than front to back. This is because I have more camber in the front, and I have found that if I rotate and flip, I have less contact patch in the rear and more in the front which makes me uncomfortable.

Lesson learned: don't run more camber than you need so your tires will wear evenly from inside to outside.
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Yes, on the track car every track day. But for the z4m with square set-up, I switch inside to out side rather than front to back. This is because I have more camber in the front, and I have found that if I rotate and flip, I have less contact patch in the rear and more in the front which makes me uncomfortable.

Lesson learned: don't run more camber than you need so your tires will wear evenly from inside to outside.
But inside to out assuming non-directional, correct?
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      07-16-2013, 11:38 PM   #5
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But inside to out assuming non-directional, correct?
They are directional. Moving left to right and vice versa.
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      07-17-2013, 01:22 AM   #6
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i flip fronts to back, to lazy to go to tire shop to flip left to rights
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But inside to out assuming non-directional, correct?

They are directional. Moving left to right and vice versa.

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left -> right, same reason, high neg camber.
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Staggered, not square set-up.

I dismounted and flipped my tires for even wear. Too much outside shoulder wear, wanted to prolong the tires past 2 seasons...if possible.

Yes it cost money. But it is either that or paying for another set of tires when I cord the outside. You need to pick your battles IMO
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Staggered, not square set-up.

I dismounted and flipped my tires for even wear. Too much outside shoulder wear, wanted to prolong the tires past 2 seasons...if possible.

Yes it cost money. But it is either that or paying for another set of tires when I cord the outside. You need to pick your battles IMO
I understand that but someone said rotate side to side after each track event.
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      07-17-2013, 03:35 PM   #10
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Right, so you guys are not only switching left to right but flipping them inside out since they are directional? Doesn't that get $$$ quickly to take it to a tire shop to dismount, mount and rebalance each time?
Not if you don't pay full price. It's $80 which is a lot cheaper than expensive new tires.
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I flip my fronts to the back when the inside edges get visibly worn from the camber up front

directional tires, so no point in dismounting and reversing
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Not if you don't pay full price. It's $80 which is a lot cheaper than expensive new tires.
If you know shop owner you can get it done for 40 or maybe even less if you go often enough. I get mine done for 40 (remove, mount, balance)
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I'd swap em left to right too, about every other event.
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I rotate assymetric tires left to right every few track days.

And recently had my tire shop flip front tires inside/out on directional NT-05s that were wearing out driver side outer edge.
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I rotate assymetric tires left to right every few track days.

And recently had my tire shop flip front tires inside/out on directional NT-05s that were wearing out driver side outer edge.
Outer edge? You need more camber.
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I rotate assymetric tires left to right every few track days.

And recently had my tire shop flip front tires inside/out on directional NT-05s that were wearing out driver side outer edge.
Outer edge? You need more camber.
I know. I am running about -2.3° and that has been good for street and track.
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