Camber shims and Toe

Barryb97 · 02-08-2013, 01:25 AM

After installing camber shim washers on the front of my Z4 M coupe. I measured my camber at about -2.9 degrees (iPhone). Sounds about right. I expected since I added washers that I would have more toe-in. When I measure with my new Longacres toe plates I get about .5 degrees toe-out. Does that sound right? For some reason I thought by installing the washers I would make more toe-in.

Finnegan · 02-08-2013, 02:18 AM

Yes, sounds right. More negative camber means more toe-out.

Shoot for zero toe with that much negative camber, unless you want to chew up the tires. That is tell out is nice for use on the track, but I wouldn't run it on the street.

seank · 02-08-2013, 05:26 PM

Sounds right. WHS

aerobod · 02-09-2013, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Barryb97

After installing camber shim washers on the front of my Z4 M coupe. I measured my camber at about -2.9 degrees (iPhone). Sounds about right. I expected since I added washers that I would have more toe-in. When I measure with my new Longacres toe plates I get about .5 degrees toe-out. Does that sound right? For some reason I thought by installing the washers I would make more toe-in.

As the lower control arm (LCA) attaches to the bottom of the kingpin, adding the washers between the strut and the kingpin effectively causes the top of the kingpin to move inwards (intuitively you would think the bottom of the kingpin would move outwards, but this is not the case). Thus the toe-out will increase when the washers are added as the track rod end attaches to the kingpin above the LCA ball joint.

02-08-2013, 01:25 AM	#1
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02-08-2013, 02:18 AM	#2
Finnegan Major General Drives: Sapphire Black/Black Z4Mc Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: At the track..or wishing I were at the track Posts: 5,482 iTrader: (17)	Yes, sounds right. More negative camber means more toe-out. Shoot for zero toe with that much negative camber, unless you want to chew up the tires. That is tell out is nice for use on the track, but I wouldn't run it on the street. __________________ 2007 Sapphire Black Z4M / Apex EC7s / Eisenmann Exhaust / Euro Headers/Cat / Aero Sideskirts / DIY Stubby / Ultimate Pedals / AS SSK / RB Rotors / Other Stuff #1047

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02-08-2013, 05:26 PM	#3
seank enthusiast Drives: e30 m3,e90 wagon,sprinter,z4m Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: sacramento, ca Posts: 682 iTrader: (2)	Sounds right. WHS