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      06-02-2016, 01:37 PM   #1
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Bay Area PPI recommendations?

Hey guys,

I think I found the Z that I've been searching for and want to make sure everything is all peachy. Any recommendations for an indy BMW shop for a PPI on the Peninsula (San Mateo area) or SF? Preferably somewhere where you guys personally take your moupes to.

I was thinking Edge Motorworks in Mountain View. Anywhere else?

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      06-02-2016, 01:54 PM   #2
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      06-02-2016, 02:46 PM   #3
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Phaedrus. In the City (Jackson St.)
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      06-02-2016, 05:26 PM   #4
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Thanks guys! I heard some mixed things about phaedrus though...do you think they know the m coupe well enough to know common issues?
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      06-02-2016, 09:05 PM   #5
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A little further down the road, but these two shops are outstanding and have serious BMW knowledge, racing history and customer backing. My PPI was done at Bavarian, extremely thorough.

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Edge, Bavarian, Alekshop in South Bay.

P-Tech in East Bay.

No experience in the North Bay unfortunately.
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Bavarian Motorsports. Ask for Ramon LeFrancois.
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Thanks for the recommendations guys...unfortunately, I didn't end up getting the car or the PPI. I didn't do my research thoroughly enough and found out that this car's title still had a lien on it. I think they're usually more hassle than it's worth.
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Edge is good. I've used Dinan in Mountain View with nice success....

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I decided to deal with the title lien issues and get the PPI. Ended up going to Bavarian Motorsports since they had a last minute appnmt spot available. So-so experience. Asked for Ramon to do the PPI, but when I called afterwards, he didn't seem to know much about the car. Otherwise, the PPI was a bit cheaper than other specialty indy shops, so I guess that was good.
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I decided to deal with the title lien issues and get the PPI. Ended up going to Bavarian Motorsports since they had a last minute appnmt spot available. So-so experience. Asked for Ramon to do the PPI, but when I called afterwards, he didn't seem to know much about the car. Otherwise, the PPI was a bit cheaper than other specialty indy shops, so I guess that was good.
More importantly, were they able to provide adequate checkover of the car? Do you feel that it was worth the cost? (of course, try to be as unbiased as possible )
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I think adequate is the right word to describe it. There really wasn't anything to rave about and Ramon definitely didn't seem to know too much about the car--he had to go talk to the technician about it for a minute to answer my questions. I've definitely had a better PPI experience with the other m coupes I've looked at. Didn't get that tremendous boost of confidence I was looking for since I'm not too mechanically inclined just yet (hopefully about to change soon).

Nonetheless, I ended up buying the car an hour ago.
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I think adequate is the right word to describe it. There really wasn't anything to rave about and Ramon definitely didn't seem to know too much about the car--he had to go talk to the technician about it for a minute to answer my questions. I've definitely had a better PPI experience with the other m coupes I've looked at.
Congrats on the car! FYI, Ramon and Nicole run the shop but they do rely on a highly skilled staff to complete the majority of the work. Hence, he will defer to the person who actually inspected the car (fair enough). The shop can come off a bit unfriendly at first, but they know their Bimmers and most customers by first name.
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Grats on the purchase! Sometimes (rarely, but it does happen on occasion), it seems like the local enthusiasts--whenever we USED to meet up--would actually know more about our cars than the shop techs
Another reason to hunt for info on these forums
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I think adequate is the right word to describe it. There really wasn't anything to rave about and Ramon definitely didn't seem to know too much about the car--he had to go talk to the technician about it for a minute to answer my questions. I've definitely had a better PPI experience with the other m coupes I've looked at. Didn't get that tremendous boost of confidence I was looking for since I'm not too mechanically inclined just yet (hopefully about to change soon).

Nonetheless, I ended up buying the car an hour ago.
Congrats on the car. I echo the other poster's sentiment, that often times the owners of the shop don't actually perform the work, even though they're very capable to do so.

A good, hardworking, HONEST mechanic is hard to find. Ramon is one. At least, that's been the universally, unsolicited feedback I've gotten about him.
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A good, hardworking, HONEST mechanic is hard to find. Ramon is one. At least, that's been the universally, unsolicited feedback I've gotten about him.
That's what everyone's saying about him and his shop too. Like I said, I'm sure the shop did what they needed to do for the PPI. As someone who's not too mechanically inclined (yet!), I personally would have loved to have spoken in a lot more detail with the mechanic who actually worked on the car to give me that extra peace of mind/boost of confidence after a PPI.

I don't want this thread to turn into a knock against Bavarian Motorsports. The overwhelmingly positive feedback about the shop is definitely well documented on the forum and on yelp. Just giving my $.02 as a person who was looking for a lot more reassurance from the process.
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No matter the case, you provided an unbiased feedback about your personal hands-on experience, which is always appreciated

Often times, shops get talked up so much that sometimes I question if it's BS
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Just giving my $.02 as a person who was looking for a lot more reassurance from the process.
That's perfectly understandable. I'm also just giving my $0.02. Probably should have given you the "magic keyword" before you asked to talk to Ramon...

There are a certain set of keywords that triggers a more favorable treatment, from just about anybody. Ramon's keywords are:

"My instructor with BMW CCA," "club racer friend," and "race car."

Figure out how to use all three phrases in a sentence in Ramon's presence and watch his ear perk up...Or maybe he'll launch into a diatribe. Who knows.
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There are a certain set of keywords that triggers a more favorable treatment, from just about anybody. Ramon's keywords are:

"My instructor with BMW CCA," "club racer friend," and "race car."
Haha--I'll be sure to use that with every indy shop from now on
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I actually had a similar 2-star experience with Bavarian in the past when I had the 3.0i sport. I had brought the car in to find a whistle/vacuum leak. They couldn't find it, which isn't a big deal to me, but dude was seriously rushing me out of there. IIRC it was a Friday and he was probably anxious to start his weekend like we all are, but it was a far cry from the warm and fuzzy attention other reviewers described

Also stay away from BR Performance is Los Gatos. Went in for Inspection 2 a few years ago, and they forgot to put one of my strut braces back on (and who knows what else...). I went back to get it, and they had an annoyed tone as if it were my fault they fucked up

Been 100% DIY since and couldn't be happier with the level of service I receive
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