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      06-30-2012, 05:02 PM   #1
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Is it possible to fit the S65 V8 in the E85 Z4?

A question for all experts, amateurs, knowledgeable enthusiast and specialists. As stated in the title, is it possible to fit the S65 V8 in the E85 Z4?

Also, how much would a feat like this cost along with the time it would require?

In all honesty, at present it's a thought with a lot of desire behind it and I would really appreciate a few pointers as to it's possibility and the places that are capable of carrying out the task (in the UK).

Thank you all in advance for your time and patience as I am sure you all get a lot of "engine swap" questions and quite frankly must be bored stiff of them.

(I have asked this question in the E60 5 series forum as well as I am undecided on whether to go for the 2 or 5 seater car. Practicality Vs Driving Purity)
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The S85 V10 has been done before on the same chassis so it's a definite yes.
Ballpark of maybe $30k USD for parts and labor I'd say is a safe bet.
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The S85 V10 has been done before on the same chassis so it's a definite yes.
Ballpark of maybe $30k USD for parts and labor I'd say is a safe bet.
Also, remember, the S85 isn't designed, and the Z4 wasn't designed, to be in the same car. So you're really taking your chances.

It's not like you'll just be able to bring it to your local BMW dealership under warranty.

Although I would highly, highly, highly, highly recommend you do this project with many pictures and posts!!!!

DAMN! A V10 in a Z4!!!!! droooooool.......................
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Both the S65 and the S85 have been fitted into the E85/86.



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      06-30-2012, 09:08 PM   #6
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Thanks for the input guys. I saw an E46 cabriolet (not an M3) on you tube and wondered how he got it all to work.

Just thinking about it, the S65 is 202kg almost the same weight as the N54 which puts out 100bhp less. Perfect for power and doesn't compromise handling and balance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXng-swx14M&feature=youtube_gdata_player

$30,000? Including all other upgrades (rev counter, speedometer, brakes, suspension, strut braces, clutch, etc) , or just engine, ECU and gearbox fitting and calibration?

Here's one that has been done, no info on it though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lon8qtyNSTQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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$30k was just a guess. I wouldn't be surprised if it ended up being more than that, after all is said and done
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Sorry..

For me a better option would be a V8 1M Coupe - it's been done in Egypt started with a 118D shell and pretty much changed everything on the car. see vid below



Apparently this can also be done using the DCT box.

In terms of cost, i'm not sure, but would hazard a guess and say 7-10k for parts. labour could be anything if you're getting someone to do most of the work...
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Sorry..

For me a better option would be a V8 1M Coupe - it's been done in Egypt started with a 118D shell and pretty much changed everything on the car. see vid below



Apparently this can also be done using the DCT box.

In terms of cost, i'm not sure, but would hazard a guess and say 7-10k for parts. labour could be anything if you're getting someone to do most of the work...
am i the only one that thinks this is pointless???? id rather just have a 1m!!! the v8 ///M engine isnt the pick of the litter imo...... Great to see what people can do with a alittle imagination however.... i cant lie though, id love my z4m as it stands now with a DCT box....
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I think the guy in egypt said he did it because of their tax or registration prices make everything extremely expensive so to buy the base model and do the conversion and swap was significantly cheaper.
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am i the only one that thinks this is pointless???? id rather just have a 1m!!! the v8 ///M engine isnt the pick of the litter imo...... Great to see what people can do with a alittle imagination however.... i cant lie though, id love my z4m as it stands now with a DCT box....
I've driven both and imo, the 1M engine didn't excite me at all where as the M3 lacked on the handling front due to its weight but that engine was just - at full chat it sounded the nuts. So for me a 1m's agility with the E92's engine would make the perfect combo.. each to their own i guess.
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the female drifter - didn't she have an e39 m5 engine in a z4 before, or is this another female z4 engine swap female drifter?
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Sorry..

For me a better option would be a V8 1M Coupe - it's been done in Egypt started with a 118D shell and pretty much changed everything on the car. see vid below



Apparently this can also be done using the DCT box.

In terms of cost, i'm not sure, but would hazard a guess and say £7-£10k for parts. labour could be anything if you're getting someone to do most of the work...
I can just imagine a "1" with a supercharged S65 in the nose but, part of the allure the Z holds is it's low cost for the car itself, is a two seater and has that cosseting cocooned within the cabin feel to it.
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the female drifter - didn't she have an e39 m5 engine in a z4 before, or is this another female z4 engine swap female drifter?
Hmm now I'm not sure thought it was the S65 motor. I could be wrong
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Hmm now I'm not sure thought it was the S65 motor. I could be wrong
It's the S62 off the E39 M5. Shows it here at 2:02 and mentions "Z4 M5" in the very end. Makes sense really as even stock it's got a lot more torque than the S65.

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I think we just found Roffles' new role model for autox

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The guys at Rogue Engineering transplanted the e39 m5 motor in their z4 roadster before the M was ever an option. And yes, the s65 has also been done as well.
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I wanna put my motorscorpion on her car. Would be fuckin' awesome videos. I still need to make some improvements to it though
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The guys at Rogue Engineering transplanted the e39 m5 motor in their z4 roadster before the M was ever an option. And yes, the s65 has also been done as well.
What was the cost, who (as in Firm) carried out the S65 conversion, how long did it take and what were the snags if any?

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What was the cost, who (as in Firm) carried out the S65 conversion, how long did it take and what were the snags if any?

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Hi,

I started in 2010 building the swap V8 s65 in to the body BMW Z4 M. I have little chance to finish this project at the end of 2012.It is huge challenge for everyone ,especially from car mechanics
I'm interested in your progress in this topic(of course if you are decided to do it).

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