CF front splitter? - Page 2

nmulax · 02-26-2009, 05:56 PM

Wow! That was fast, concept to production ready in 1 week.
Krnnerdboy - thank you for taking the initiative to contact APR!

Stupid question, but looking at the APR site, it says you need 3-4" of flat surface all around to mount the splitter. Obviously our cars don't have this. Will mounting below the fangs and the 2 support rods provide enough strength?

Also, the APR site says CF reinforced construction... what else is it made out of?
Just curious how much weight will be added.

lazoh · 02-26-2009, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nmulax

Wow! That was fast, concept to production ready in 1 week.
Krnnerdboy - thank you for taking the initiative to contact APR!

Stupid question, but looking at the APR site, it says you need 3-4" of flat surface all around to mount the splitter. Obviously our cars don't have this. Will mounting below the fangs and the 2 support rods provide enough strength?

Also, the APR site says CF reinforced construction... what else is it made out of?
Just curious how much weight will be added.

It will more than likely be fiberglass, but the question needs to be asked to APR just in case.

fatmatt0116 · 02-26-2009, 08:27 PM

How similar would the finished product be to the Varis CF lip? If similar, I am in.

krnnerdboy · 02-26-2009, 09:11 PM

the splitter is made of carbon fibre on top which is wrapped around a sturdy plastic on bottom. On the 350z it weighed no more than 5lbs with the hardware. not to mention it took alot of beatings from parking on top of curbs!! definitely a tough quality piece. it never cracked and in fact cracked the bumper mounts instead from a head on curbing.

the difference with this and the varis is mainly that the varis is made to only work with their front lip which is a AC knockoff. I actually prefer the stock fangs.

The__J__Factor · 02-26-2009, 09:48 PM

If they can make it have the little bits that stick up in the middle like in this pic that would be great.
Cant wait to see the final result

superbow · 02-27-2009, 05:10 AM

will get see a drawing etc to see what it will look like before we decide on the GB?

krnnerdboy · 02-27-2009, 11:10 AM

APR refused to do a mock up for me, and I'm not confident enough that my rendering of what a splitter should look like is what alot of M owners will have on their cars. Perhaps someone can do a template for us on black cardboard and post a pic? if it looks anything like the photoshopped lilherc M I'm in!

Haretakis · 02-27-2009, 02:46 PM

What about something like CSL splitters from the E46 M3? I dunno how it would look considering the fangs, but just another idea.

JCz04Bimmer · 02-27-2009, 03:31 PM

I think the most simple and effective design would be a "diffuser" type part that connects the two fangs. The mounting would occur through the fangs and into the diffuser. For added rigidity, perhaps 2 or 3 verticals connecting this diffuser to the bumper part in between the fangs.

Then, with the bumper now pretty much running flat across, you can affix a secondary diffuser.

I wish I was able to find a 3D rendering of the Z4 M's front end. I can only find non-M Z4's. I'd load it into a CAD-based program and draw something up...

EDIT: I managed to find some pretty detailed blueprints of the Z4M. I'm going to try my hand at creating a 3D render using Google's SketchUp. If I can get it squared away and implement a decent design, I'll post my results.

mpower03 · 03-04-2009, 08:47 PM

any updates?

krnnerdboy · 03-05-2009, 09:37 PM

nobody has followed with some templates....I guess no one is interested or is waiting for others to be the guinea pigs...

F360C · 03-05-2009, 09:44 PM

I am in for the group buy!

Z4MCJJ · 03-05-2009, 11:00 PM

Let me know.

The__J__Factor · 03-06-2009, 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCz04Bimmer

EDIT: I managed to find some pretty detailed blueprints of the Z4M. I'm going to try my hand at creating a 3D render using Google's SketchUp. If I can get it squared away and implement a decent design, I'll post my results.

Awesome let us know what you come up with.

Black///Mamba · 03-06-2009, 09:04 AM

in for the gb.

F360C · 03-06-2009, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krnnerdboy

nobody has followed with some templates....I guess no one is interested or is waiting for others to be the guinea pigs...

Well I think I am going to be the guinea pig for this one. I am going to be heading home on monday so I will try and mock something up out of cardboard and then send it off to APR to get it made. Before I send it off I will take some pics and post them and hopefully we can get a group buy going. He said we needed 5 people correct?

tintboy · 03-06-2009, 06:16 PM

I'm soo in. F360c DO IT!

jsoltan · 03-06-2009, 07:21 PM

Let us know!!!!

mpower03 · 03-06-2009, 08:55 PM

i might be in too

F360C · 03-06-2009, 09:29 PM

Well I am going to aim to try and fool around with this on tuesday... so check back in this on tuesday for pics. i have been looking at splitter pics all day when I should have been doing school work but I know have a really good idea of how I think it should look.
My biggest question is how thick they can make this splitter... i don't want something that is paper thin.

I actually found out about these custom made apr splitters about a year ago but I have been going back and forth about if I want to do it. I have an idea that involves a carbon splitter from apr and another piece that I will have to make on my own but I think it will be the better design for function

The__J__Factor · 03-06-2009, 09:43 PM

what ever it turns out to be its gonna look 100x better on ur white car compared to all others i think. So u win no matter what.

O-cha · 03-06-2009, 09:48 PM

Is this just meant to be a straight splinter for functionality and no aesthetics?

I love the look of the vorsteiner m6 lip.

02-26-2009, 05:56 PM	#23
nmulax Brigadier General Drives: '07 Z4 M Coupe Join Date: May 2006 Location: Metro-Detroit Posts: 3,980 iTrader: (5) View nmulax's Garage	Wow! That was fast, concept to production ready in 1 week. Krnnerdboy - thank you for taking the initiative to contact APR! Stupid question, but looking at the APR site, it says you need 3-4" of flat surface all around to mount the splitter. Obviously our cars don't have this. Will mounting below the fangs and the 2 support rods provide enough strength? Also, the APR site says CF reinforced construction... what else is it made out of? Just curious how much weight will be added. __________________

02-26-2009, 09:11 PM	#26
krnnerdboy Lieutenant Drives: z4 m IB Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: so cal Posts: 443 iTrader: (3)	the splitter is made of carbon fibre on top which is wrapped around a sturdy plastic on bottom. On the 350z it weighed no more than 5lbs with the hardware. not to mention it took alot of beatings from parking on top of curbs!! definitely a tough quality piece. it never cracked and in fact cracked the bumper mounts instead from a head on curbing. the difference with this and the varis is mainly that the varis is made to only work with their front lip which is a AC knockoff. I actually prefer the stock fangs. __________________

02-26-2009, 09:48 PM	#27
The__J__Factor Captain Drives: ///M Coupe Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Posts: 800 iTrader: (0)	If they can make it have the little bits that stick up in the middle like in this pic that would be great. Cant wait to see the final result Attached Images __________________ 2007 ///M Coupe - H&R - RE Diablo - RPi - Tekarbon - More to Come

02-27-2009, 05:10 AM	#28
superbow Private First Class Drives: Z4 MC & 320d m sport touring Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Lancashire England Posts: 110 iTrader: (1)	will get see a drawing etc to see what it will look like before we decide on the GB? __________________ BMW M Coupe 'It's a lot like nothing else'

02-27-2009, 11:10 AM	#29
krnnerdboy Lieutenant Drives: z4 m IB Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: so cal Posts: 443 iTrader: (3)	APR refused to do a mock up for me, and I'm not confident enough that my rendering of what a splitter should look like is what alot of M owners will have on their cars. Perhaps someone can do a template for us on black cardboard and post a pic? if it looks anything like the photoshopped lilherc M I'm in! __________________

02-26-2009, 08:27 PM	#25
fatmatt0116 Hooligan Drives: 2007 Imola Red Z4 M Coupe Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Laguna Beach, CA Posts: 291 iTrader: (0)	How similar would the finished product be to the Varis CF lip? If similar, I am in.

02-27-2009, 02:46 PM	#30
Haretakis Second Lieutenant Drives: 2007 Silver Z4 M Coupe Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: O.C., SoCal Posts: 222 iTrader: (3)	What about something like CSL splitters from the E46 M3? I dunno how it would look considering the fangs, but just another idea. __________________ ESS Tuning Software, JVT (Ebay) Headers, AFE Intake, RPI Scoop, ACS Pedals, and ZHP Shift Knob.

02-27-2009, 03:31 PM	#31
JCz04Bimmer Lieutenant Drives: 06 Z4MC Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Boston Posts: 444 iTrader: (0)	I think the most simple and effective design would be a "diffuser" type part that connects the two fangs. The mounting would occur through the fangs and into the diffuser. For added rigidity, perhaps 2 or 3 verticals connecting this diffuser to the bumper part in between the fangs. Then, with the bumper now pretty much running flat across, you can affix a secondary diffuser. I wish I was able to find a 3D rendering of the Z4 M's front end. I can only find non-M Z4's. I'd load it into a CAD-based program and draw something up... EDIT: I managed to find some pretty detailed blueprints of the Z4M. I'm going to try my hand at creating a 3D render using Google's SketchUp. If I can get it squared away and implement a decent design, I'll post my results. Last edited by JCz04Bimmer; 03-02-2009 at 02:49 PM.

03-04-2009, 08:47 PM	#32
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03-05-2009, 09:37 PM	#33
krnnerdboy Lieutenant Drives: z4 m IB Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: so cal Posts: 443 iTrader: (3)	nobody has followed with some templates....I guess no one is interested or is waiting for others to be the guinea pigs... __________________

03-05-2009, 09:44 PM	#34
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03-05-2009, 11:00 PM	#35
Z4MCJJ Lieutenant Drives: Z4MC Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Z4MC Posts: 448 iTrader: (0)	Let me know.

03-06-2009, 09:04 AM	#37
Black///Mamba Captain Drives: a beast Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 601 iTrader: (0)	in for the gb. __________________

03-06-2009, 06:16 PM	#39
tintboy Private First Class Drives: 2011 E92 M3 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 108 iTrader: (2)	I'm soo in. F360c DO IT! __________________ Present~2011 E92M3 Comp Space Grey/Speed Cloth Gone~Z4m Coupe Carbon fiber wing,grills and plate frame- MorrVS8 DBK19in,245-35,275-30RE01R-TMSunderdrive pulleys-k&n panel filter-RPI scoop-ESS software-UUC short shifter- JVT E46m3 headers-super sprint race withXpipe-4.10gears-H&R coilovers-TCKrear strutmounts

03-06-2009, 07:21 PM	#40
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03-06-2009, 08:55 PM	#41
mpower03 Captain Drives: 08 z4 M Coupe Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: FL Posts: 653 iTrader: (0)	i might be in too __________________ Click to see Project STINGER

03-06-2009, 09:29 PM	#42
F360C Lieutenant Drives: M Shoe Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Jersey Posts: 487 iTrader: (2)	Well I am going to aim to try and fool around with this on tuesday... so check back in this on tuesday for pics. i have been looking at splitter pics all day when I should have been doing school work but I know have a really good idea of how I think it should look. My biggest question is how thick they can make this splitter... i don't want something that is paper thin. I actually found out about these custom made apr splitters about a year ago but I have been going back and forth about if I want to do it. I have an idea that involves a carbon splitter from apr and another piece that I will have to make on my own but I think it will be the better design for function __________________ 07 Z4 M Coupe AW/IR SuperSprint Race Exhaust\|H&R Springs\|OEM ZCP Wheels\|OEM Aero side sills\|Ultimate Pedals\|OEM CF Lip\|AFE Intake\|RPI Scoop\|ESS Software\|Headers with out cats\|Carbotech XP10\|

03-06-2009, 09:43 PM	#43
The__J__Factor Captain Drives: ///M Coupe Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Posts: 800 iTrader: (0)	what ever it turns out to be its gonna look 100x better on ur white car compared to all others i think. So u win no matter what. __________________ 2007 ///M Coupe - H&R - RE Diablo - RPi - Tekarbon - More to Come

03-06-2009, 09:48 PM	#44
O-cha Your turbo would fit in mine Drives: Mcoupe Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: In front of you Posts: 4,098 iTrader: (2)	Is this just meant to be a straight splinter for functionality and no aesthetics? I love the look of the vorsteiner m6 lip. __________________ Direct injection vid 1000hp sai bai bai