CSL air intake on a M Coupe

[izzy]

Anybody put a CSL intake in their car?
Really thinking about putting it in. CSL sound is amazing.

Here the CSL in this clip

[DirtBag335]

I am hoping to pick one up later this year. Have you checked out any of the reviews at m3forum.com?

[AtoB]

you could consider one of these....

http://www.zpost.com/forums/showthre...18#post5111718

[DirtBag335]

Originally Posted by AtoB

you could consider one of these....

http://www.zpost.com/forums/showthre...18#post5111718

Not even close to the same thing though.

[AtoB]

Originally Posted by DirtBag335

Not even close to the same thing though.

any links? it's not a straight fit into our cars i assume.

[bkz4mc]

As far as I know it is... shy of the extra intake down pipe that goes to the front bumper. Don't know if the aftermarket versions have these tho... You also need to get an Alpha N tune to make them work which is $1k - $1.5 K. Not a cheap mod for the gains ( which are minimal )... But DAMN would it be cool ! hahahaa

I'm def gonna get one of these as well when the opp presents itself...

[AtoB]

Originally Posted by bkz4mc

As far as I know it is... shy of the extra intake down pipe that goes to the front bumper. Don't know if the aftermarket versions have these tho... You also need to get an Alpha N tune to make them work which is $1k - $1.5 K. Not a cheap mod for the gains ( which are minimal )... But DAMN would it be cool ! hahahaa

I'm def gonna get one of these as well when the opp presents itself...

1-1.5K on top of the intake... ouch.

[bkz4mc]

Originally Posted by AtoB

1-1.5K on top of the intake... ouch.

Yeah... That's one thing I didn't know about the whole thing until recently

[Dammmittt]

I'd pay more than a grand for a csl intake (if I had it), maybe I'm crazy...

[The__J__Factor]

^ i think they ment 1-1.5k for Alpha N conversion + tune.

[bkz4mc]

Originally Posted by Dammmittt

I'd pay more than a grand for a csl intake (if I had it), maybe I'm crazy...

Yeah, $1-1.5 K ON TOP of the $3-4K for the parts.... for... mayyyyybe... 20 hp... mayyybe..... hahahahaha

To make it a really worth while mod, you need to do cams and headers as well. Even then, from what I hear, you'd be hard-pressed to get 30-40 more HP total above stock with all 3 mods.

So let's see here.... $5K CSL intake & Alpha N tune, $3K Stepped header / section 1, $1200 Cams plus who knows how much for installation.... That's close to $10K . Ouch.

That's why people are looking at SCs...

But DAMN is a CSL intake cool !!!!!

[DirtBag335]

Okay guy's it's not just an intake it's a whole new plenum. And you don't need Alpha N to make it work, check out bimmerworld.com. They have one that keeps the maff so you don't need the Alpha N to make it work.

[DirtBag335]

Originally Posted by bkz4mc

Yeah, $1-1.5 K ON TOP of the $3-4K for the parts.... for... mayyyyybe... 20 hp... mayyybe..... hahahahaha

To make it a really worth while mod, you need to do cams and headers as well. Even then, from what I hear, you'd be hard-pressed to get 30-40 more HP total above stock with all 3 mods.

So let's see here.... $5K CSL intake & Alpha N tune, $3K Stepped header / section 1, $1200 Cams plus who knows how much for installation.... That's close to $10K . Ouch.

That's why people are looking at SCs...

But DAMN is a CSL intake cool !!!!!

It is 3 grand for the CSL air box. Ebay headers are $250 and cams/rockers are 2 grand at turner motorsport. So really you can cut your estimate in half, more like 5 grand.

[bkz4mc]

Originally Posted by DirtBag335

It is 3 grand for the CSL air box. Ebay headers are $250 and cams/rockers are 2 grand at turner motorsport. So really you can cut your estimate in half, more like 5 grand.

Yeah, I'm gonna get a CSL intake airbox and accent that with Ebay headers. What's the point of just using the MAF set-up as well ? Just get a Gruppe M if you're gonna go that route and save the $2200.00.

Do you know how to install rockers / cams ? 80% of the guys on here won't even change their own CDV valve. You gotta be more realistic with prices... things are ALWAYS more than U anticipate.

[2fast_on4]

Hello guys,
I want to go down that road (CSL intake, cams, full exhaust, alpha N), but I can find nobody that offers the damn alpha N for this car! I am expecting an answer from ESS. I think that is better to ban the MAF sensor as anybody with an M3 suggest that it transforms the car in terms of response and cam number choices.
Does anybody know anything about a tuner with Alpha N available?

[bkz4mc]

I believe that there's a couple places. I know Bimmerworld does something as they have 3 different versions of their CSL intake set-up. Also CA Automotive does something as well I believe. You could prolly call and ask VAC Motorsports as well and see what they offer...

I haven't fully done my research on who to go through yet, but I'd prolly start with Bimmerworld.

[RussRamz]

Originally Posted by 2fast_on4

Does anybody know anything about a tuner with Alpha N available?

Yes it can be done. Look to spend roughly 5,000 Euro for the box and software. PM me if you want to pursue it. I was going to do it, but decided on SC'ing the car instead--more power for less money.

[sales@ESSTuning]

Originally Posted by 2fast_on4

Hello guys,
I want to go down that road (CSL intake, cams, full exhaust, alpha N), but I can find nobody that offers the damn alpha N for this car! I am expecting an answer from ESS. I think that is better to ban the MAF sensor as anybody with an M3 suggest that it transforms the car in terms of response and cam number choices.
Does anybody know anything about a tuner with Alpha N available?

We do have Alpha N software for the Z4M.

It comes free with the purchase of the CFR series supercharger

[bkz4mc]

Originally Posted by Rom3n

We do have Alpha N software for the Z4M.

It comes free with the purchase of the CFR series supercharger

oh I see what you did there.... SOOO SNEAKY !!!!

[DirtBag335]

Originally Posted by bkz4mc

Yeah, I'm gonna get a CSL intake airbox and accent that with Ebay headers. What's the point of just using the MAF set-up as well ? Just get a Gruppe M if you're gonna go that route and save the $2200.00.

Do you know how to install rockers / cams ? 80% of the guys on here won't even change their own CDV valve. You gotta be more realistic with prices... things are ALWAYS more than U anticipate.

You didn't mention labor on your price range so I didn't on mine. There is nothing wrong with ebay headers. I don't see why everyone is so against them. The tech that installed them on my car said they want one easier than many name brand headers he has installed over the years. If you want to spend thousands of dollars on headers when you could spend a few hundred for basically the same thing go ahead.

The benefit of the CSL air box is that it directs the air much better than the stock one does. Just getting the Gruppe M intake will not address this problem. That is why I wouldn't go with the Gruppe M. But everyone has different goals and plans for there cars so this is no right way to go.

[Luminor]

I realize this post is over 7 months old, but was reading through it and thought I would post this...I forget where I copied this from. Has anyone gone ahead with a CSL intake on an E85/86?

Comprehensive list of parts and retail pricing (real oem)
11617833496 AIR COLLECTOR $2,974.14
11617831740 BRACKET $7.81
07119902973 HEX BOLT WITH WASHER $0.39
07119900398 HEX NUT $0.44 x 2 pc
11617831745 MUFFLER CLAMP $8.04 x 6 pc
11617833497 UNFILTERED AIR HOUSING $1673.28
11617833498 CONTROL UNIT $387.25
11617833648 INTAKE TUBE $18.64
07129952137 HOSE CLAMP $1.05
11617833646 AIR DUCT $18.41
11617833645 SUCTION TUBE $50.78
07119905016 COUNTERSUNK SCREW $7.36 x 4 pc
07119901780 FILLISTER HEAD WITH WASHER $2.24 x 4 pc
16131176747 PLASTIC NUT $1.92
07119931115 FLAT WASHER $0.34 x 2 pc
07129952127 HOSE CLAMP $2.35
11617833647 AIR SHUT OFF VALVE $64.80
11157833649 VENT HOSE $43.29
13717896774 INTAKE MANIFOLD $51.34
13621739510 TEMPERATURE SENSOR AIR $25.95
13727838625 BMC PANEL AIR FILTERS $117.43 x 3 pc


$5,500-$6,000 approx. retail price for Intake Plenum and all fitting parts.
Note: few vendors can actually procure the CSL airbox/associated parts.

[flat_out]

So has anyone done this on the Z4M yet?