ess tune: $995

Ubermensch · 07-02-2010, 06:37 PM

As of today the price is back to $795

xJxDx0926 · 07-06-2010, 11:11 PM

my cars getting tuned next weekend at a tuning event here in Massachusetts. Bren Tuning has a tune for the Z4M thats apparently supposed to be better than the ESS one.

He's Charging 650 is supposed to yield 25hp 20tq

inTgr8r · 07-07-2010, 07:25 AM

^ better based on what?

ZM4000 · 07-12-2010, 05:06 AM

i would be interested in a group buy. but in nearly 2 months i think im going to open a new thread when the moment will come lets see. or we could do it hear since the thread is allready here

Z4Murder · 07-28-2010, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xJxDx0926

my cars getting tuned next weekend at a tuning event here in Massachusetts. Bren Tuning has a tune for the Z4M thats apparently supposed to be better than the ESS one.

He's Charging 650 is supposed to yield 25hp 20tq

more info on this?

Blind32 · 07-28-2010, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z4Murder

more info on this?

http://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=409785
and
http://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=405610

Z4Murder · 07-28-2010, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Blind32

http://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=409785
and
http://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=405610

thanks, i checked those out. guess what im really wondering is why the power difference between this tune and ESS?

ZM4000 · 07-29-2010, 02:50 AM

i wrote ESS and they told me they dont wanna risk push it too hard so that ure in risk mode they dont wanna overheat engine etc. I'll go with ESS for sure

Z4Murder · 08-03-2010, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZM4000

i wrote ESS and they told me they dont wanna risk push it too hard so that ure in risk mode they dont wanna overheat engine etc. I'll go with ESS for sure

thanks for the reply, anyone else got input on this?

ZM4000 · 08-04-2010, 02:17 AM

No

sales@ESSTuning · 08-04-2010, 01:28 PM

There is only so much power you can net from tuning a NA S54 motor after mapping VANOS, TQ parameters AFR's etc.. once you have tuned the car to run safe the only other option is to run the car lean or attempt to have it run advanced timing. Both of these options can lead to motor damage under the right conditions. We have calibrated our tune to run safe and to also improve throttle response and overall driveability. We rate power gains on a stock car around 10 whp and on cars with headers or custom exhaust systems we have had customers make more. My suggestion for anyone tuning their car is to check your AFR's and timing to ensure it is running safe. Dispite what a tuner tells you you should always know first hand whats going on with your motor.

We also flash in a default 91 octane map which does not exist in the factory software. The factory software has a 93 octane and 89 octane map it will switch between depending on fuel quality. This is why 91 octane users notice that the car feels really nice when adaptations are reset and sluggish after being driven around for awhile. Many of the things we do in our NA flash we learned while developing the software for our supercharger kits.

Z4Murder · 08-04-2010, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rom3n

There is only so much power you can net from tuning a NA S54 motor after mapping VANOS, TQ parameters AFR's etc.. once you have tuned the car to run safe the only other option is to run the car lean or attempt to have it run advanced timing. Both of these options can lead to motor damage under the right conditions. We have calibrated our tune to run safe and to also improve throttle response and overall driveability. We rate power gains on a stock car around 10 whp and on cars with headers or custom exhaust systems we have had customers make more. My suggestion for anyone tuning their car is to check your AFR's and timing to ensure it is running safe. Dispite what a tuner tells you you should always know first hand whats going on with your motor.

We also flash in a default 91 octane map which does not exist in the factory software. The factory software has a 93 octane and 89 octane map it will switch between depending on fuel quality. This is why 91 octane users notice that the car feels really nice when adaptations are reset and sluggish after being driven around for awhile. Many of the things we do in our NA flash we learned while developing the software for our supercharger kits.

Thanks for the info Roman. Would a 93 octane user notice the effect of "sluggish" performance after being driven around for a while?

sales@ESSTuning · 08-04-2010, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z4Murder

Thanks for the info Roman. Would a 93 octane user notice the effect of "sluggish" performance after being driven around for a while?

No the Z4M factory software wants to run on 93 octane. It should only feel less responsive if you have poor quality fuel and it defaults to its 89 map.

r4gs · 08-04-2010, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rom3n

No the Z4M factory software wants to run on 93 octane. It should only feel less responsive if you have poor quality fuel and it defaults to its 89 map.

That's interesting. If 91's the best i get around here, does that mean the factory ECU will default to the lower 89 map?

ZM4000 · 08-05-2010, 01:31 AM

Lucky me we have 98octane in Luxembourg

007MCoupe · 08-05-2010, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rom3n

There is only so much power you can net from tuning a NA S54 motor after mapping VANOS, TQ parameters AFR's etc.. once you have tuned the car to run safe the only other option is to run the car lean or attempt to have it run advanced timing. Both of these options can lead to motor damage under the right conditions. We have calibrated our tune to run safe and to also improve throttle response and overall driveability. We rate power gains on a stock car around 10 whp and on cars with headers or custom exhaust systems we have had customers make more. My suggestion for anyone tuning their car is to check your AFR's and timing to ensure it is running safe. Dispite what a tuner tells you you should always know first hand whats going on with your motor.

We also flash in a default 91 octane map which does not exist in the factory software. The factory software has a 93 octane and 89 octane map it will switch between depending on fuel quality. This is why 91 octane users notice that the car feels really nice when adaptations are reset and sluggish after being driven around for awhile. Many of the things we do in our NA flash we learned while developing the software for our supercharger kits.

wow, that makes perfect sense to me. i recently posted about this, and it was after i started using 91. after i reset the throttle mapping, according to someone on here, it felt brand new again. thanks for that roman!

Juice84 · 08-05-2010, 09:33 AM

You guys cant get butt 91 in TX? that sucks, Im suprised you dont have a Sunoco or something selling 93-94 or even higher.

ZM4000,

Your 98 is probably closer to our 93

007MCoupe · 08-05-2010, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juice84

You guys cant get about 91 in TX, that sucks, Im suprised you dont have a Sunoco or something selling 93-94 or even higher.

ZM4000,

Your 98 is probably closer to our 93

i had to look it up honestly! i thought the premium was 89!!!

Jbs · 08-05-2010, 01:31 PM

I will be going to ESS for my chip. I just wish it was cheaper

ZM4000 · 08-06-2010, 07:13 AM

No it isnt juice 84 dont forget we live next to germany THE MOTHER OF GREAT CARS and best fuel. We got the 98 octane and the 95 octane at ur gas stations. it is funny to feel a difference from 98 to 95 octane.

Juice84 · 08-06-2010, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZM4000

No it isnt juice 84 dont forget we live next to germany THE MOTHER OF GREAT CARS and best fuel. We got the 98 octane and the 95 octane at ur gas stations. it is funny to feel a difference from 98 to 95 octane.

Next time you fill up tell me the rating they use in Luxemburg. If it is like most of europe it is RON. If it is like the US, it will be printed in small text on the gas pump near the octane number. In the US we use AKI which is an avg of RON and MON. MON on most commercialy avaliable fuels is about 10 points less then RON. So if you are using 98 RON then MON is probably around 90 giving an AKI rating in the 94 octane range

You should feel a difference between the 98 and 95 if you are a RON scale b/c 95 would be about 91 ish octane in the US and the z4 will probably defualt to the 89 octane map dropping your HP.

Z4Murder · 08-08-2010, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rom3n

No the Z4M factory software wants to run on 93 octane. It should only feel less responsive if you have poor quality fuel and it defaults to its 89 map.

thanks roman, i will be buying your tune when i have the money for headers also.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZM4000

Lucky me we have 98octane in Luxembourg

lucky!! i'd have to pay an arm and a leg for the local 100 octane here.

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