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      10-11-2012, 10:15 AM   #221
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hi guys, really good to see some proper conversation about these kits!! the g-power is an awesome kit.... the ess kits are imo to hampered in the lower guises, the blower is just way to big....

really looking forward to getting my 550 kit inplace which offers the most Tq of any of the kits.... BUt... 9/10psi is imo alittle further than id want to go on stock internals... i guess time will tell!!

iron, can you post some nice upto date pics of the car, engine bay, lots of detail on the s/c kit please would be awesome!!

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I think the 305 posted online on esstuning.com is not to the ground, is the g-power 345 ft.lb to the ground?
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      10-12-2012, 08:56 AM   #223
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hi guys, really good to see some proper conversation about these kits!! the g-power is an awesome kit.... the ess kits are imo to hampered in the lower guises, the blower is just way to big....

really looking forward to getting my 550 kit inplace which offers the most Tq of any of the kits.... BUt... 9/10psi is imo alittle further than id want to go on stock internals... i guess time will tell!!

iron, can you post some nice upto date pics of the car, engine bay, lots of detail on the s/c kit please would be awesome!!

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I will post some updates actually I had a busy days. I had a run also VS CL55 but I didn't upload it yet. will take a new pictures.

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I think the 305 posted online on esstuning.com is not to the ground, is the g-power 345 ft.lb to the ground?
yap I have 345 ft.lb to the ground. I'll take the dyno sheet picture from my uncle today and post it because since I made the run I didnt take the picture.
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      10-13-2012, 12:32 PM   #224
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I've taken down a CL55 myself in gears 3-4

345tq is nuts
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      10-13-2012, 04:28 PM   #225
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      10-16-2012, 03:05 AM   #226
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But the kit states online that it will develop 345 tq on the dyno not to the ground, you have a special tune or such ?
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      10-16-2012, 09:34 AM   #227
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But the kit states online that it will develop 345 tq on the dyno not to the ground, you have a special tune or such ?
The dyno is the ground.
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      10-16-2012, 10:06 AM   #228
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the VF kit VF480 puts 340 tq and costs about 1K less :/
Am i missing something?
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the VF kit VF480 puts 340 tq and costs about 1K less :/
Am i missing something?
PM sean@PSI and see what he can do for the G-Power kit.
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      10-16-2012, 10:43 AM   #230
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I did but i didn't like the number especially since there's no upgrade path, they should drop at least 2K from the advertised price.

I mean at this price they could have used an air to air setup with a ROTREX C38-91 and it would have cost them the same to make with good margin of profit
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the VF kit VF480 puts 340 tq and costs about 1K less :/
Am i missing something?
Yes, you're missing something; the difference between brake hp/tq and wheels hp/tq. The VF480 will put ~300 tq to the ground with headers.
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I thought the 345 advertised by Gpower on their website was tq (not on the wheels)
But if that's what you're saying, this means that G power is some nasty kit.

What's an ESS-vt2 500 tq like? crank
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I thought the 345 advertised by Gpower on their website was tq (not on the wheels)
But if that's what you're saying, this means that G power is some nasty kit.

What's an ESS-vt2 500 tq like? crank
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      10-16-2012, 12:29 PM   #234
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I thought the 345 advertised by Gpower on their website was tq (not on the wheels)
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But if that's what you're saying, this means that G power is some nasty kit
Yeah, that's what everyone is saying
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yap I have 345 ft.lb to the ground. I'll take the dyno sheet picture from my uncle today and post it because since I made the run I didnt take the picture.
Still waiting for this.
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      10-21-2012, 03:59 PM   #236
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any chance of some new pics of the car and engine bay, some nice detail ones around the bay would be cool :-)
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      11-01-2012, 11:32 AM   #237
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finally got the picture but unfortunately lost the one with 345 ft lb. It's still one of the best Dyno runs i made.

[IMG] DSC00976 by Saihati Shabiboo, on Flickr[/IMG]
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That dyno looks odd for an S54. Why not run it to 8k rpm?
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      11-01-2012, 01:42 PM   #239
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See pokey? my friend has an ASA and much more boost than ironZ4M and produces 350 TQ on 3K.

That's how ASA - ROTREX - HKS delivers power.

Different than V3si on S54.

you pawnt my ass on centrifugal power on S54, yet what i was saying was that some superchargers develop high boost at low RPM and holds on to it.
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when your driving can you feel that dip @ 6k???? any reason whats causing that??
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See pokey? my friend has an ASA and much more boost than ironZ4M and produces 350 TQ on 3K.

That's how ASA - ROTREX - HKS delivers power.

Different than V3si on S54.

you pawnt my ass on centrifugal power on S54, yet what i was saying was that some superchargers develop high boost at low RPM and holds on to it.
v3si will need around 10lbs to make around 340tq..... but this is the difference.... where this particular asa unit is running out and getting all hot, the v3 hasn't even woke up and scratched it ass yet.... @ 10lbs you'll be getting around 480rwhp will PLENTY of room to spare... show me a single rotrex, ASA, HKS that can deliver on that spectrum ..... hell show me a unit thats got 1150 CFM figures ;-) Im guessing only the HUGE ASA, ect ect units....

I do love the low Tq delivery... and imo the g-power kit is right up their imo as one of the best kits.... great hardware, great figures.... great price.
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      11-02-2012, 09:01 AM   #242
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See pokey? my friend has an ASA and much more boost than ironZ4M and produces 350 TQ on 3K.

That's how ASA - ROTREX - HKS delivers power.

Different than V3si on S54.

you pawnt my ass on centrifugal power on S54, yet what i was saying was that some superchargers develop high boost at low RPM and holds on to it.
False. At 3k rpm, the average S54 puts out 200 lb-ft of torque. To have 350 lb-ft, you would have to be developing 11 psi at 3k rpm. At redline, you would be up around 25-30 psi, maybe more.

If you lower the compression, off-boost performance suffers (meaning low rpm in a centrifugal setup). The only way to have that much torque on an S54 is with a turbo or nitrous.

All centrifugal blowers aren't identical, but they behave very similarly. They all have two things in common - the rpm of the engine determines the rpm of the blower, and the higher the rpm the greater the boost. There is no other way to put it.
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