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      12-08-2017, 02:52 PM   #23
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If you're thinking about this as an issue, really anything that is electronic and has some sort of operating code can be a potential personal security risk. In this day and age of connected devices, there's a certain level of trust you have to have with whatever software and hardware you use. Otherwise you might as well live life as an Amish.

Just because an app says it only accesses certain things on your cell phone doesn't mean it can't do other things. When you accept the permissions of what the app is going to do, doesn't mean behind the scenes the app is going to do something without your permission.

The only way to know for sure is if you throw a packet sniffer on everything to see what is going in and out of the device or to run through the code of the software line by line.
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If you're thinking about this as an issue, really anything that is electronic and has some sort of operating code can be a potential personal security risk. In this day and age of connected devices, there's a certain level of trust you have to have with whatever software and hardware you use. Otherwise you might as well live life as an Amish.

Just because an app says it only accesses certain things on your cell phone doesn't mean it can't do other things. When you accept the permissions of what the app is going to do, doesn't mean behind the scenes the app is going to do something without your permission.

The only way to know for sure is if you throw a packet sniffer on everything to see what is going in and out of the device or to run through the code of the software line by line.
Interesting,concerned but at the same time what can one really do other that avoid all technology(live like an Amish lol)
I guess it depends on how corrupt people in general can be with their powers.
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Interesting,concerned but at the same time what can one really do other that avoid all technology(live like an Amish lol)
I guess it depends on how corrupt people in general can be with their powers.
This is exactly right. The hope is reputable companies will operate in a mostly ethical manner. This is why the hacker community is important. While everyone has a picture of hackers doing malicious things, there are those that probe things we use on a daily basis to find security issues; both unintentional and intentional. I remember quite a few years ago Real Player got caught capturing user multimedia habits and sending them back to Real Player without user consent.

The fear of shaming is what we can only hold on to as a way to keep companies in check.

I've reported here before that I caught DirecTV's DVR probing my network and making connections to the web server built into my network attached printer.
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Humans but we are forced to give some of them some level of trust at one point or another.

For tech co, it is certainly Google. Just too much information they can gather from each of the computers and devices.
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Something I noticed recently that seems very invasive is how my phone will pick up on my conversations and advertise to me.

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I tested this a few weeks ago. My wife and I do not own cats. Over a couple days I would have random conversations with my wife about cat food, cat toys, etc. Not once did I search for anything cat related on my phone, only in conversations.

Browsing the internet a couple days later I am getting ads for Purina cat food and all this other garbage all over the place. Am I the only one that finds this invasive?

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Something I noticed recently that seems very invasive is how my phone will pick up on my conversations and advertise to me.

For example:

I tested this a few weeks ago. My wife and I do not own cats. Over a couple days I would have random conversations with my wife about cat food, cat toys, etc. Not once did I search for anything cat related on my phone, only in conversations.

Browsing the internet a couple days later I am getting ads for Purina cat food and all this other garbage all over the place. Am I the only one that finds this invasive?
That's just fuckin spooky.
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It's interesting the number of people concerned about Google or Amazon when they freely allow them in their homes with Nest and Alexa.
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That's just fuckin spooky.
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Something I noticed recently that seems very invasive is how my phone will pick up on my conversations and advertise to me.

For example:

I tested this a few weeks ago. My wife and I do not own cats. Over a couple days I would have random conversations with my wife about cat food, cat toys, etc. Not once did I search for anything cat related on my phone, only in conversations.

Browsing the internet a couple days later I am getting ads for Purina cat food and all this other garbage all over the place. Am I the only one that finds this invasive?
That's what my coworker who uses iphone told me. He started seeing stuff advertised on his facebook and searches after having a conversation with someone a day or two earlier. He noticed that about 3-4 months ago. He went on to do some researches about this and surprised Apple has been doing that kind of stuff for a while.
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That's what my coworker who uses iphone told me. He started seeing stuff advertised on his facebook and searches after having a conversation with someone a day or two earlier. He noticed that about 3-4 months ago. He went on to do some researches about this and surprised Apple has been doing that kind of stuff for a while.
Yeah it happens all the time, was talking with a coworker about hiking boots. Two hours later, ads for hiking boots on google searches, YouTube, all over the place.

Happened on my Android and iPhone.
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Yeah it happens all the time, was talking with a coworker about hiking boots. Two hours later, ads for hiking boots on google searches, YouTube, all over the place.

Happened on my Android and iPhone.
This is why I don't trust them AT ALL!!
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Try it.
I think I am going to....I'll just babble about something and see what happens.
Well...I babble all the time.
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Yeah that Alexa thing is scary.....just put microphones everywhere for the giant to listen to your every conversation.
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