Values are going up

elwesso · 03-25-2014, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by msh441

Except that the new Z's already came out. And without an M model in the lineup... I think the S54 cars (coupes AND roadsters) just become more and more desirable.

Last S54
6-speed manual
NA engine (as stock)
Non-electric steering

It's the last of the purist BMW's. Not to say that there haven't been some killer drivers since then, just way more tech bells and whistles involved.

Last of the analog sports cars.

It's very possible that the Z4 M is the most modern purist sports car PERIOD. I can't think made after 2008 that compares?

zimmer · 03-25-2014, 05:03 PM

I only looked up M coupe's

pungo · 03-25-2014, 06:30 PM

I find it interesting that the M coupes are valued many thousand dollars more then the convertibles even though the convertibles cost more when new. I guess the rarity of the coupes and the supply and demand raises the value. Nonetheless, it's nice to see the value increasing, and not decreasing.

msh441 · 03-25-2014, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by pungo

I find it interesting that the M coupes are valued many thousand dollars more then the convertibles even though the convertibles cost more when new. I guess the rarity of the coupes and the supply and demand raises the value. Nonetheless, it's nice to see the value increasing, and not decreasing.

I think your right: boils down to production numbers. Wasn't the coupe-to-roadster (M only) ratio something like 1:3 or 1:4?

I think the overall Z4 coupe-to-roadster ratio (both M and non) is closer to 1:100000000000000000. Though my figures may be a LITTLE off.

1SerieStud · 03-25-2014, 06:54 PM

In both cases the Z3 M and the Z4 M, the coupes were outnumbered by the roadsters.

pungo · 03-25-2014, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by msh441

I think your right: boils down to production numbers. Wasn't the coupe-to-roadster (M only) ratio something like 1:3 or 1:4?

The M coupe to roadster ratio is not as high as I thought it'd be. I guess the coupe is just more desirable (no wars here).

Roadster=3041
Coupe=1815
ratio=1:1.6

zimmer · 03-25-2014, 07:28 PM

I love my car so much

zimmer · 03-25-2014, 07:34 PM

I am having www.proformanceindustries.com redo my wheels this spring do to a bent rim.
They are going to reshape it and powder coat all four wheels. Their work is amazing!!!

1SerieStud · 03-25-2014, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by zimmer

I am having www.proformanceindustries.com redo my wheels this spring do to a bent rim.
They are going to reshape it and powder coat all four wheels. Their work is amazing!!!

Take a look

zimmer · 03-25-2014, 07:44 PM

Nice touch looks great!!!!

1SerieStud · 03-25-2014, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by zimmer

Nice touch looks great!!!!

Thanks! Pics don't do them justice…the color is very metallic in person.

silverfishZ4M · 03-25-2014, 08:11 PM

Is that shadow chrome like on the z3mc s54?

1SerieStud · 03-25-2014, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by silverfishZ4M

Is that shadow chrome like on the z3mc s54?

No, pictures don't really portray the color well. It's very metallic/flaky, and it's darker than shadow chrome, but when the sun hits it, it lights up.

RADRACR · 03-25-2014, 08:36 PM

Back on topic, it's notable that most forum members own coupes. As if enthusiasts prefer it. No offense at all, as I know plenty of roady owners more enthused than myself.

KevinC · 03-26-2014, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by msh441

Last S54
6-speed manual
NA engine (as stock)
Non-electric steering

You forgot one, and it's not trivial - the E85/E86 the last BMW to start with a key. Everything since uses the crappy fob that you insert into the dash, with or without "Comfort Access", which allows you to leave it in your pocket.

Rated M Roadster · 03-26-2014, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by KevinC

You forgot one, and it's not trivial - the E85/E86 the last BMW to start with a key. Everything since uses the crappy fob that you insert into the dash, with or without "Comfort Access", which allows you to leave it in your pocket.

X3 didn't get a fob till 2011.

ANUSTART · 03-26-2014, 07:05 AM

I recently considered trading my 2.5 and the values on those have gone up as well. There's a demand out there and good examples are becoming more scarce.

Swashplate · 03-26-2014, 05:25 PM

Wow they are coming out of the woodwork now....

http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/4387577972.html
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ctd/4372568202.html
http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/cto/4389847455.html
http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/4384298856.html

dubsesd · 03-26-2014, 05:55 PM

Last one has a title and has had severe damage that was repaired which reflects the price

Swashplate · 03-26-2014, 06:39 PM

Yea, I noticed that. 20 grand seems to be the average for the ones with a branded title. But i have never seen so many for sale at one time in this area.

msh441 · 03-26-2014, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by aestheticstorm

Back on topic, it's notable that most forum members own coupes. As if enthusiasts prefer it. No offense at all, as I know plenty of roady owners more enthused than myself.

I would totally agree.

I just think it's easier to do a roadster if you live in a region where you can enjoy it... or it's purely a weekend toy.

Coupes are generally lighter/stiffer. But that's sort of moot to me. As above, I'd gladly put up with the extra weight if I lived in an area where I could drop the top on a regular basis.

Rated M Roadster · 03-26-2014, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by msh441

I'd gladly put up with the extra weight if I lived in an area where I could drop the top on a regular basis.

The roadster weighs less than the coupe... 3197lbs for the roadster vs 3230lbs for the coupe.

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