Pulled a 400+ hp GTO tonight...

[Dammmittt]

Ohhhh...the tires...I've "chirped" 2nd and 3rd before, now adays I have the music so loud I probably wouldn't notice...

Oh, and as far as letting the clutch out fast, there's nothing scary about it, unless you're scared to sucked into the back of the seat. Although, I did it today between first and second with my wife in the car, i just threw the shifter back and I had to have just barely gotten it in when i dropped the clutch cuz it stuck and we took off like a bat outta hell. I half expected grind, but i was pleased that it stuck

[Dammmittt]

Originally Posted by Bammered

Enfield... I Think the E92 ///M3 will still be a superior package. There is more to a performance car than straight line speed. The ///M will be a much more exploitable package, with its limited slip, adaptive suspension and traction control. And the 335 might have more chipped torque, but it will not have the ///M's optional 7 spd DSG which will tear through gears.... And no matter what... that V8 will respond to my slightest prod of the throttle. I dont care who u are, the 335i still has lag, its minimal but its there. And im hesitant to mod the engine and void the warranty as bmw has stated will happen. Plus the overheating issues being seen would severely hurt on track performance. So take your modded , warrarantyless 335i and hold with the E92 ///M in a straight line and then say hello to its tailpipes on the track where it will spank down lap after lap with no complaints from the chassis, limited Slip or N/A engine. It would be ///M all the way with me....

I think that's what I was going for, he just did it with more words

[Aebous]

I tend to chirp the tires going into 2nd alot. I'm fairly sure i've done it once or twice going into 3rd too, but music/wind was heavy.
Granted I don't have an M

[Dammmittt]

While we're on the topic of cars, here's one I'd trade an M3 for anyday. http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...hotopanel..1.*

(yes I snagged this from the other cars board in the member's area.)

[enfield]

Originally Posted by Bammered

Enfield... I Think the E92 ///M3 will still be a superior package. There is more to a performance car than straight line speed. The ///M will be a much more exploitable package, with its limited slip, adaptive suspension and traction control. And the 335 might have more chipped torque, but it will not have the ///M's optional 7 spd DSG which will tear through gears.... And no matter what... that V8 will respond to my slightest prod of the throttle. I dont care who u are, the 335i still has lag, its minimal but its there. And im hesitant to mod the engine and void the warranty as bmw has stated will happen. Plus the overheating issues being seen would severely hurt on track performance. So take your modded , warrarantyless 335i and hold with the E92 ///M in a straight line and then say hello to its tailpipes on the track where it will spank down lap after lap with no complaints from the chassis, limited Slip or N/A engine. It would be ///M all the way with me....

I knew there was a reason I asked you! I agree with you.

By the way I was in touch with ESS and this is their reply:

Yes, we hope to release our first Z4M SC system early next year.


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Asbjorn Bohn

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[Artz 330]

Originally Posted by enfield

I knew there was a reason I asked you! I agree with you.

By the way I was in touch with ESS and this is their reply:

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

[enfield]

I have heard (at another firum) that the ESS SC will produce 550 horses....

Imagine the possibilities....

[Dammmittt]

SC is cool and all but I'd go with the HPF turbo...750 is rediculous.

[Artz 330]

Originally Posted by Dammmittt

SC is cool and all but I'd go with the HPF turbo...750 is rediculous.

traction?

[Dammmittt]

I guess that's what low rpms are for...

[Bammered]

I think the Supercharger would still be more exploitable by nature of its powerband. THe supercharger would make horsepower all up high, whereas the turbo would benefit from the low down torque. That being said i belive peak power for the turbos is still at 8,000rpm. But just hammering it from low down, the booste would hit like a freight train and incinerate those rear tires. Most of those turbo cars seem built as highway roll on beasts only ... The super charger would add torque but not like the turbo, which means u could use it more like the S54 in its current guise... PLus i break loose on bumpy pavement with only 330... 550 would be a hell of alot of fun, 750 would be such a handfull.... Crasy setups either way, but for me i think i will stick N/A...

[Dammmittt]

all hypothetical so far...it'll be interesting to see how engine mods pan out