ESS Software long term reviews?

inTgr8r · 04-05-2010, 03:09 PM

I've been through most of the positive review threads on the ESS software.
It's very enticing

Since this has been out for a while now I was wondering if we could get some feedback from those that have been running it long term?

ALSO:
From the data that I was able to find, I didn't see any data relating to A/F ratios.
I've seen other tuning software that has some great improvements but the A/F ratio caused some long term concerns.

The__J__Factor · 04-05-2010, 05:25 PM

^ i dont think ess would have leaned out the mixture to cause any worry. Most of the gains are probably from all other aspects of tuning, timing, ignition, vanos parameters ect and extending the working boundaries of the ecu. ie it not going limp after new mods or changes.

inTgr8r · 04-05-2010, 06:51 PM

From all the good reports and no reported problems, you are probably right

Timing and ignition can impact a/f ratios though.
I've seen it in the 350z and G35 communities.
Since dynos have been done, it would be nice to see the a/f numbers as well.

Shipkiller · 04-05-2010, 07:13 PM

inTgr89r,

I am contemplating this mod also...

But before I do it, I am taking the car to a HPDE event in May to establish a baseline from a stock chassis/drivetrain standpoint.

inTgr8r · 04-05-2010, 07:20 PM

HPDEs are usually a ton of fun
Our local chapter runs a few here at Mosport every year.

...definitely on my agenda.

From running my M roady, I know it would definitely benefit the added bottom end torque.

F360C · 04-05-2010, 08:46 PM

I have been running mine now for about a year and half and this includes 10 track days. Never once has it skipped a beat! I don't think I really ever drive my car easy either. Also put down 306rwhp on a mustang.

inTgr8r · 04-05-2010, 09:01 PM

^thanks

The__J__Factor · 04-05-2010, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inTgr8r

From all the good reports and no reported problems, you are probably right

Timing and ignition can impact a/f ratios though.
I've seen it in the 350z and G35 communities.
Since dynos have been done, it would be nice to see the a/f numbers as well.

I didn't mean they didn't touch the a/f at all. Just saying they probably didn't lean it out once all tuned.

inTgr8r · 04-06-2010, 06:51 AM

^ yeah, understood.

It speaks well that the software has been around for a while now and to my knowledge zero reported issues.
I really appreciate F360C's results since his car is well & truly exercised; street & track.

Still, it would be nice to see some before and after a/f charts.
I've see tune plots that work great though the RPM range & then (for example) fall off @ or near redline.
IMO, the a/f plot would be useful added data for the determination of a new redline setpoint.

sales@ESSTuning · 04-06-2010, 02:53 PM

Soon as I get some time I will get some before and after with AF posted.

krnnerdboy · 04-06-2010, 08:39 PM

Ill be at mfest and was wondering if our ECUs tuning will be offered on track day?

inTgr8r · 04-06-2010, 09:12 PM

Sounds great Roman

sales@ESSTuning · 04-08-2010, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krnnerdboy

Ill be at mfest and was wondering if our ECUs tuning will be offered on track day?

If we have customers who want Z4M software installed at M-fest we can bring the hardware

dekaliber · 05-31-2010, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rom3n

Soon as I get some time I will get some before and after with AF posted.

Roman -- just wanted to see if you had a chance to get some data up.

Also, looks like the original images showing before/after dyno charts of the ESS tune on a stock Z4M are dead. Would you mind reposting those for those of us newly inducted into the Z4M crowd?

MIKe86 · 05-31-2010, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dekaliber

Roman -- just wanted to see if you had a chance to get some data up.

Also, looks like the original images showing before/after dyno charts of the ESS tune on a stock Z4M are dead. Would you mind reposting those for those of us newly inducted into the Z4M crowd?

+1

shitbrownMcoupe · 05-31-2010, 10:54 PM

intgr9r,

let's get this done together

???

inTgr8r · 06-01-2010, 06:51 AM

in progress already.

here's one of the best ESS reviews I found with dyno plots etc.

dekaliber · 06-01-2010, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inTgr8r

in progress already.

here's one of the best ESS reviews I found with dyno plots etc.

I've seen that one, but it has a couple of other mods (exhaust/scoop) that I doubt I'll be doing, so I was hoping to see a stock baseline against a stock + ESS tune.

Shipkiller · 06-01-2010, 02:25 PM

Do the scoop. It's cheap.

inTgr8r · 06-01-2010, 02:45 PM

I did the scoop before & TBH didn't think it did a damn thing.
Maybe on the track, but on the street nada.

...or maybe it was my numb butt dyno.

dekaliber · 06-01-2010, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shipkiller

Do the scoop. It's cheap.

IMHO it's also cheap-looking, which is the main reason I don't especially care for it.

Shipkiller · 06-01-2010, 08:33 PM

shift@red

What part of CT are you in? I am up here in Groton for the next two weeks. I brought the Coupe' with me.

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inTgr8r Lieutenant General 2432 Rep 11,667 Posts Drives: M2 Comp Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Toronto iTrader: (10)	From all the good reports and no reported problems, you are probably right Timing and ignition can impact a/f ratios though. I've seen it in the 350z and G35 communities. Since dynos have been done, it would be nice to see the a/f numbers as well.
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inTgr8r Lieutenant General 2432 Rep 11,667 Posts Drives: M2 Comp Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Toronto iTrader: (10)	HPDEs are usually a ton of fun Our local chapter runs a few here at Mosport every year. ...definitely on my agenda. From running my M roady, I know it would definitely benefit the added bottom end torque.
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inTgr8r Lieutenant General 2432 Rep 11,667 Posts Drives: M2 Comp Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Toronto iTrader: (10)	^ yeah, understood. It speaks well that the software has been around for a while now and to my knowledge zero reported issues. I really appreciate F360C's results since his car is well & truly exercised; street & track. Still, it would be nice to see some before and after a/f charts. I've see tune plots that work great though the RPM range & then (for example) fall off @ or near redline. IMO, the a/f plot would be useful added data for the determination of a new redline setpoint. Last edited by inTgr8r; 04-06-2010 at 06:56 AM..
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Shipkiller Colonel 188 Rep 2,138 Posts Drives: Me Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Virginia Beach iTrader: (3) Garage List 2008 BMW Z4M Coupe [8.50] 2003 BMW Z4 Roadster [8.33]	Do the scoop. It's cheap.
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